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Baby Koga
07-22-2014, 08:57 AM
Main Roles:

Team Rocket (TR):

1. The Boss: As the leader of TR, you have the power to "KO" one trainer a night. You do not have a type and can only be defeated by the champion or voted out.

2. The Executive: As the Exec. you are also able to "KO" a trainer. You may also change your type from one of the "starting types" once a night. However, should you try to defeat a trainer that has a type advantage over you or the champion, you will be eliminated.

3. Pokemon Hunter: Once per night you can identify type and role (if applicable) of one player. If you happen to choose the Looker, his/her role will not be revealed and they will be classed as a trainer with a "false Primary Type".

4. Rocket Grunt: The grunt has no particular power other than posing as a trainer and trying to cause confusion among trainers.


-There is only one of each TR roles. However, it works as a rank system. For example, if the first Boss is eliminated then the Executive will take his/her spot, the Hunter will take Exec spot and the grunt will be promoted to hunter. This is a repetitive system and will continue so that all the higher positions are filled.

-TR members will be informed of their roles and of the other members of TR prior to DAY 1. They may only communicate at NIGHT time through pm's.

-If the Exec chooses a target, they will be eliminated, unless they are at a type disadvantage or challenge the champion. If there is no type advantage involved (eg. water vs ice), the target is still eliminated.



-As part of their abilities, instead of each lynching a player, the Boss and Exec can tag team to target one player specifically. Although this reduces the amount of people they can attempt to eliminate that night, the up side is that their target is guaranteed to be eliminated, including the Champion! Nurse Joy and Abra are the only things that can save the target.



Pokemon Trainers:

Champion: The Champion being the level headed (and slightly gullible) trainer he/she is cannot challenge anyone to a battle. However, anyone attempting to challenge them will be eliminated. Can only be eliminated by vote out or when double teamed by TR.

Karate Master: This fist pumping master is willing to save his city at any cost. Can challenge a person once a night. Will be defeated if they challenge the champion, TR Boss or a trainer/Rocket member with a type advantage. Always fighting type.

Looker: Similar to the Pokemon Hunter, Looker can reveal the type and role (if any) of one person per night. If you happen to choose the Pokemon Hunter, their identity will be hidden as a trainer and you will be given a "false Primary Type".

Psychic: Can communicate with one eliminated member per night as to ask who they were killed by. However, Ghosts don't always tell the truth. Always has psychic type.

Nurse Joy: Can choose one person [not themselves] to heal their party if they are attacked(in other words, that player will survive that night if they were defeated in battle). If he/she chooses a person inflicted by a status from a wild Pokemon, they will also be cured of that status. Does not have a type and if challenged to battle will be instantly defeated.

Trainer x5: Each trainer will be assigned a type from one of the following: (Grass, Fire, Water, Ground, Ice and Rock). These will not be changeable unless they have a Pokemon that can do so. They cannot challenge anyone. Much like the TR grunt, their main function is to publicly discuss and work out who the TR members are.


Pokemon Gifts

From the start of the first day, each of the trainers with no roles will be given a Pokemon at random from the list bellow (provided they're still alive). Only one Pokemon will be given a day to one random trainer. Each Pokemon will have a special effect, but can only be used once before it "returns to the wild".

Abra Trainer can use this to teleport from a battle. eg If they're about to be attacked they flee to safely and survive that attack and do not get lynched.

Haunter If you get lynched, you take your opponent down with you.

Kecleon This allows you to change your type to one of the other 5 "starting types" permanently.

Clefairy With Clefairy, you may choose another for you to fall in love with (gender doesn't matter cause we're in the 21st century, yo!) If either of you get eliminated, the other is also eliminated by default from a broken heart </3. Both of you will know who each other is, but one is a TR member, they may not disclose this info with their fellow Rockets. If both are left standing by the end, no matter which team you are on, you will be victors.

-Abra and Haunter stay with the trainer until they have been (attempted to) be lynched.
-Kecleon and Clefairy's effect can be used any DAY the owner chooses.


Wild Pokemon:

No matter how hard we try, there are just some Pokemon that neither trainers nor TR members can catch. Not only that, but these 3 wild Pokemon aren't too happy with all this commotion. They cannot be caught and if you run into one, they're going to make your day very difficult.

Jigglypuff: If you encounter a jigglypuff, she's sure to put you to sleep with her sweet sweet melody. Unfortunately for you, you will not be able to comment on the discussion/vote thread for that day which will make you look very suspicious. You may still murmur your vote in your sleep, but cannot justify it.

Electabuzz: You don't wanna mess with this guy or he'll leave you paralyzed, leaving you unable to vote.

Jynx: FREEZE! ... Literally <.<. This only applies if you have a role or a gift Pokemon. You cannot instigate a battle or use your role ability/abilities/Pokemon that night... Unless Nurse Joy cures you. [Nurse Joy is not affected by this]. This also stunts the Boss/Champion's type immunity, meaning if they are challenged by a TR member or Karate Master respectively, they will be eliminated.

-People affected by these Pokemon can be considered to be afflicted by a status in game reference (Sleep, paralysis and frozen respectively).

Baby Koga
07-22-2014, 09:05 AM
RULES

PMs:
PMs and other out-of-thread communication are NOT allowed UNLESS you are explicitly told otherwise.

Activity:
You must vote every day you are alive, and must post at least once every full day/night cycle (unless you are effected by a Pokemon status). Failure in doing so will result to the game host removing you from the game (also called as a modkill).

Day/Night Cycles
Day lasts for 48 hours. Night lasts for 24 hours.

Forms of Cheating
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information. he rols of the Psychic will be conducted through pm's.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like handing out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM timings to try and work out roles.
5. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host without permission.
6. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
7. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
8. Offering favours/items outside of the game for a ingame information.
9. Sharing accounts with other players.
10. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
11. Posting a false PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host.
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Spam:
Strategic spam is acceptable, within reason.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything. The board software automatically merges the posts anyway.

Inappropriate posts:
Mafia games can get heated and emotional. Please keep it civil and remember that what happens in Mafia stays in Mafia. Don't let things spill over to the rest of the forum, it's just a game. If you are unhappy with a player's posts, PM me first. With few exceptions, this game should be conducted as to also comply with the rules of Pokebay.

Observers' Chat:
While spectators will be fuelling speculation, and dead players will be keen to give valuable "insight" into the game, please refrain from revealing game-changing information (eg. the identities of your fellow Mafia). Speculate, theorise and express bewilderment at dumb plays all you want, but remember that the chat is not leakproof and game-ruining information CAN get out.

Play to win:
You should try your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. Clearly not playing towards your win objective will be grounds for a modkill and personal ban from me. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM the host if you need to leave the game.

Voting rules:


1. This game uses Plurality Lynch. At the end of the day, the player with the most votes will be killed. If there is a tie, the first player to have reached that number will be lynched.
2. You must vote for a player and cannot abstain (unless afflicted with a status problem).
3. Voting is done in this thread. I prefer it if you post separate to content-filled posts.
4. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Username. Votes not done in the correct fashion may not be counted.
5. If you want to change your vote, first type ##Unvote followed by your new vote ##Vote: Username. You can change your vote at any time and as much as you like (within reason) up until a majority is reached.
6. No conditional voting.
7. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.

Disclaimer These rules have been copied and adapted as necessary from Josh's previous mafia game. I do not own the mafia game or Pokemon.

Baby Koga
07-22-2014, 09:29 AM
Technicalities:

With the new roles, Pokemon and status problems I have added there will be some technical issues and rules which I will try to cover here.

Trainer Typing:

-As you may have noticed, most roles, including some Rocket Members and all non-role Pokemon Trainers have types. This may affect the outcome of the NIGHT time battles. For instance, if the TR Executive tries to lynch a player who has a type advantage over them (eg. if the Exec has water as a type and challenges a trainer with a grass type), they themselves will be eliminated.

-The six "Primary Types" [Water, Fire, Grass, Ground, Rock and Ice] have been randomly, and for the most part, evenly assigned to the 5 non-role trainers, the TR Grunt and the TR Executive. Each of the types assigned are permanent from here on out, unless you are the Executive who can change their type to one of the other "Primary Types" at the end of the NIGHT if they are still alive and they choose to do so. The other exception is the trainer who receives a Kecleon. They may change their type ONCE during the day time to another "Primary Type".

-Some trainers and TR members have also been assigned more unique types, but will play to the same effect as the other types.

-The TR Boss, the Champion and Nurse Joy are the only trainer classes that have not been assigned types. The champion cannot be defeated by anyone, the TR Boss can only be defeated by the Champion and Nurse Joy will instantly be eliminated if they are challenged.

-If any trainer of any class, including Rockets are afflicted with Frozen from Jynx, they will lose their typing, Pokemon and any role abilities they have. This means that, even the TR Boss or Champion can be lynched if effected with Frozen, unless they are lucky enough to be cured by Nurse Joy. In that case, events will proceed as normal.

Team Rocket:

-There is only one of each TR roles. However, it works as a rank system. The top rank is the Boss followed by the Executive, Pokemon Hunter and Grunt respectively. For example, if the first Boss is eliminated then the Executive will take his/her spot, the Hunter will take Exec spot and the grunt will be promoted to hunter. This is a repetitive system and will continue so that all the higher positions are filled. This is to insure that Team Rocket always have 2 Kill Power (2 KP), belonging to the Boss and the Exec. TR will be reduced to 1 KP (belonging to the Boss) if there is only one TR member left (which will be the Boss), the Champion is eliminated or if the Pokemon trainers are reduced to the same number as the Rockets.

-TR members will be informed of their roles and of the other members of TR prior to DAY 1. They may only communicate at NIGHT time through pm's.

-If the Exec chooses a target, they will be eliminated, unless they are at a type disadvantage or challenge the champion. If there is no type advantage involved (eg. water vs ice), the target is still eliminated.


-As part of their abilities, instead of each lynching a player, the Boss and Exec can tag team to target one player specifically. Although this reduces the amount of people they can attempt to eliminate that night, the up side is that their target is guaranteed to be eliminated, including the Champion! Nurse Joy and Abra are the only things that can save the target.

-In regards to lynching, Team Rocket have first kill, meaning that if, for example, the TR Executive and the Karate Master lynch the same person, it will count as a kill for the mafia and the Karate Master's actions will be made null. However, this also means that any repercussions that ensue from the lynch will fall on the Rocket (eg. the Exec may be eliminated if they KO a trainer with a Haunter, while the Karate Master will not be effected).

Pokemon Trainers

-Similar to the Executive, the Karate Master will also be eliminated if the target the champion, TR Boss or someone who has a type advantage over them. However, even if there are no advantages (eg. fighting vs Ground), the target will then be eliminated.

-Nurse Joy may not choose to save him/herself, but can choose the same trainer twice in a row. If the chosen trainer to be protected has been both afflicted by a status and lynched, that person will survive AND be cured of their status problem. Nurse Joy is the only person that cannot be effect by status problems, but can still be effected by the likes of Clefairy or Haunter. However, Nurse Joy CANNOT save a person that has been double teamed by TR.

Chain Reactions

-With the addition of some gift Pokemon, such as Clefairy and Haunter, it may be possible for a chain reaction to occur. For instance, if the Karate Master defeats a Pokemon Trainer with Haunter, both of them will be eliminated. But in the event that another trainer has chosen the Karate Master with Clefairy's charm, that person will also be eliminated.


Role Corrections

-This only applies to the Pokemon Hunter and Looker. Since both these roles have unique typings, if either of these should happen to inquire about the other, they will be told they are a Pokemon Trainer and will be given a "false Primary Type" (not their actual type as previously stated.

-The Psychic can inquire into the lynch of a person once per night by pm'ing me, instead of pm'ing the person. In contrast to what I said before, they will be told the truth, but the psychic will not be told if the lynch-er was part of TR, the Karate Master or a default lynching from a gift Pokemon.

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 09:35 AM
Well, it seems im the first here... Hello everyone

Baby Koga
07-22-2014, 09:40 AM
[Day 1]

Sirens blared through Saffron City as Officer Jenny's panicked voice spoke through the muffled speakers.

"Attention all trainers! Reports have suggested that Team Rocket have infiltrated our city, posing as ordinary trainers. Please be on the look out for anyone you may find acting suspiciously. Their intentions are unknown and they could literally be anywhere. As a precaution, all routes leading from the city have been temporarily closed. Thank you for your co-operation in advance."

Most of the trainers in the street eyed each other anxiously. All except one who merely pulled his peaked cap over his eyes and kept walking.

In the City Dojo, a man dressed in a Karate gi punched a brick in response to the city alert. His punch was quick and powerful, reducing the brick into an explosion of dust. "No one takes over my city and gets away with it!" he growled.

In a house at the edge of the city, an elderly man stared at a spoon. As his eyes furrowed, the spoon seemed to magically bend backwards on itself. "They're back..."

The Pokemon Centre was in uproar as trainers pointed accusing fingers at one another.
"Everyone, please settle down!" Nurse Joy begged.
In the corner of the lobby, a mysterious figure sat by the window, clothed in a trench coat, their collar covering most of their face. "I will solve this, once and for all."



[Day 1] has begun...

You have 48 hours to vote on one person to be eliminated.

Time is ticking...


Officer Jenny breathed shakily as she turned off the city speakers. "Why? Why are you doing this?"

A person spoke in a distorted voice, hidden in the shadows behind her. "This city is where we ultimately fell, so it will be this city that feels out wrath first. Team Rocket shall rise once more!"

*BANG!!!*

Gaming Master 2000
07-22-2014, 11:09 AM
Hi Geo and everyone else! :)

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 11:11 AM
Hello GM2000 so what method of finding out the Team Rocket members should we use in your opinion?

Pikachu Belle
07-22-2014, 11:12 AM
Afternoon GM2K and Geo (:

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 11:14 AM
Good Afternoon to you too Asuna

Georgia
07-22-2014, 11:24 AM
Evening everyone! :)

Gaming Master 2000
07-22-2014, 11:27 AM
Afternoon GM2K and Geo (:

Hi Asuna :)


Hello GM2000 so what method of finding out the Team Rocket members should we use in your opinion?

I haven't got any ideas yet. What about everyone else? If we put our heads together I'm sure we could come with something

Edit: Didn't see Georgia's post. Hi Georgia :)

Baby Koga
07-22-2014, 11:29 AM
[Sorry for intruding. Post 5 has been edited as a little introduction into this game and sets the scene. Day 1 will conclude at 12pm (GMT on Tuesday, or whatever half an hour ago was for you :p SO yeah, 47 and a half hours remaining. Best of luck! :P]

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 11:58 AM
Well, I guess we can question each other and that but I doubt it'll help as we can see that this is a lying game and I think we should start off thinking what Mafia members would probably say...

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 12:14 PM
we also should refrain from voting in the first 24 hours is my idea also

IBuKun
07-22-2014, 12:35 PM
What geo said makes sense. Let's just get a feel of what everyone is like and watch out for strange behaviour.

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 12:37 PM
What geo said makes sense. Let's just get a feel of what everyone is like and watch out for strange behaviour.

exactly

Pikachu Belle
07-22-2014, 02:08 PM
I think this would be a good idea. We don't want to act all rash.

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 02:10 PM
yes, I hope none would over react like what Haymac did in the other thread :p

Pikachu Belle
07-22-2014, 02:18 PM
We should be very careful though. We need to listen to people defending themselves.

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 02:23 PM
Yes, that was the main reason mafia won on the other thread... now, lets wait for everyone to introduce themselves and see if they have anything to say

IBuKun
07-22-2014, 02:25 PM
Who hasn't shown up yet?

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 02:30 PM
A Lot Actually

Haymac
07-22-2014, 03:03 PM
yes, I hope none would over react like what Haymac did in the other thread :p

.....

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 03:11 PM
Sup Haymac Lols

Pikachu Belle
07-22-2014, 04:18 PM
It's rather odd that most people have still not posted..

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 04:22 PM
we can wait, theres a lot of time

Pikachu Belle
07-22-2014, 04:23 PM
That is true. *waits*

IBuKun
07-22-2014, 05:39 PM
I wonder what that "bang" at the end of the introductory post means...

Geo Sakuraba
07-22-2014, 05:42 PM
I guess it means Officer Jenny got hit by a bullet or rather she was sniped

IBuKun
07-22-2014, 05:52 PM
I hope not. Pretty sure the nurse being incapacitated would affect the town adversely.

Fabulous Charlie
07-22-2014, 05:55 PM
Good afternoon, all you wonderful/gorgeous people <3

Ah the beginning, it's always most difficult.

I agree though, with the notion that we should wait, refrain ourselves from voting within the next 24 hours, and listen to what everyone has to say and offer.

IBuKun
07-22-2014, 08:34 PM
Awfully quiet here.. *peeps through curtains*

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-22-2014, 10:11 PM
I think this would be a good idea. We don't want to act all rash.

WHERE WERE YOU ON THE NIGHT OF NOVEMEBER 31ST!????!?!?!

Nah I'm just kidding. What's up?? :o :|

Gaming Master 2000
07-22-2014, 10:48 PM
Morning all (well, it's morning in my part of the world :p)!

I agree with everyone else that we should wait at least 24 hours before voting.


Well, I guess we can question each other and that but I doubt it'll help as we can see that this is a lying game and I think we should start off thinking what Mafia members would probably say...

I've been thinking about it and questioning is the only way we're going to make any progress on identifying who is a part of Team Rocket. Yes/No questions are largely pointless as, as you say, people will just lie if we ask "Are you a part of Team Rocket?". We need to think of questions that can provide more revealing answers.

I was thinking something like "How do you feel about Team Rocket?" for a start. If others have questions they'd like to ask go for it.

In answer to my own question, how do I feel about Team Rocket? It's a pretty simple answer. They scare me. There's nothing standing between me and being KO'd (except a possible type advantage if I understand everything correctly).

IBuKun
07-22-2014, 11:10 PM
Well I hope team rocket mostly try and ko townies that are super effective against them...

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 12:50 AM
hey guys sorry for getting here kind of late haven't been able to get here, anyways GM2K has a good point lets try to see how people feel about team rocket first, it will allow us to get a nice feel for each other, as for me i am definitely on edge right now with the whole team rocket thing and i don't know who to trust at all but i want to get a feel for those around me before i start just pointing fingers

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 01:01 AM
TR is dangerous and with our own people being suspects, it's admittedly even scarier. I agree we should remain calm, but by remaining calm, we won't get any good answers. And if we take took long playing goodie goodie with one another, when voting time comes, we won't have any evidence or reason to vote anybody out. I think we need to be rational, but action does need to take place, even if it makes people look bad or guilty. Let's be serious, we're not friends because we don't really know who is who.

Geo Sakuraba
07-23-2014, 02:28 AM
TR is dangerous and with our own people being suspects, it's admittedly even scarier. I agree we should remain calm, but by remaining calm, we won't get any good answers. And if we take took long playing goodie goodie with one another, when voting time comes, we won't have any evidence or reason to vote anybody out. I think we need to be rational, but action does need to take place, even if it makes people look bad or guilty. Let's be serious, we're not friends because we don't really know who is who.
Yes, Gary is right on this one, its like the rule where you must think before you choose

Layton
07-23-2014, 02:34 AM
I'm here finally! (Sixflags all day. Sunburn T_T) While we do need to remain calm and not start a bandwagon of votes, we also need to discuss in order to get anywhere. As for how I feel about TR: They're a threat, and we need to be smart about who we accuse/vote for on whether or not they're TR members.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 03:20 AM
The how do you feel about TR question is pretty pointless. We're all gonna say we hate them or something. I have a question that might rattle up some discussion... If you were a member of TR, in this situation right now, what would your first course of action be right now?

My answer would be to stay quiet, commenting only as needed, and observe how the others act. Staying clear of the way to cause others to suspect me. I'd give nobody a reason to think I'm a threat, and get rid of the other village members as I suspect them, to save my fellow Rocket members. That being said, if I truly were a disgusting, sniveling, cowardly Rocket member, I'd vote off a suspected Rocket to save my own behind from being voted off. :|

I await the rest of your responses as well >_>

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 03:31 AM
if i was team rocket i would think it would make more seance to be an active talker, after all TR members are liars and cheats aren't they, i would think a rocket member would want to stir up confusion and try to turn us against each other with questions made to distract us or cast a guilty shadow on other trainers. after all the more of us that look guilty the harder it would be to find the real team rocket members

Gaming Master 2000
07-23-2014, 04:08 AM
I'd probably wait and see what chaos and confusion was caused by all the trainers around and if there wasn't enough I'd try and cause some/more chaos to get people to vote for someone not in TR.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-23-2014, 06:15 AM
Good evening all! At last I can finally make an appearance here. And I'm glad we aren't going to jump to any conclusions like last time. Hopefully we can all remain calm and collected too! :)

Pikachu Belle
07-23-2014, 08:07 AM
If I was a member of TR I would try to lead the others into voting off one of their own. It would make sense, like Josh said, to be an active talker. After all that's what TR wants.. To blend in.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-23-2014, 08:37 AM
As for how I feel about Team Rocket, they are a major threat to our survival and harm our chances of winning. I'm not sure if they'd wait around after mayhem ensues from the villagers giving them an opportunity to strike like last time, hence why we lost. It is vital that in this game we work together until all members are eliminated, also avoiding unnecessary voting along the way to ensure our survival.

Georgia
07-23-2014, 08:49 AM
Yes....and we wouldn't want anyone to take the suspicion away from themselves. We are here to solve who is Team Rocket, we will find who it is, no doubt about it.

Geo Sakuraba
07-23-2014, 08:58 AM
The reason we answered this question is to give the others an idea of what TR would probably do so we know what we should spot and find to come to a conclusion that this is what they do... BTW I think TR will try to blend in by copying our actions, plus they will lead us to chaos and confusion to make us go to a point where we vote out someone else instead of them...

IBuKun
07-23-2014, 09:09 AM
Trying a bit too hard to prove you're not a member of TR, aren't you. When you know you aren't something I don't think you'd resort to name calling. A desperate attempt to draw away suspicion from you if you ask me.

Geo Sakuraba
07-23-2014, 09:29 AM
Were you talking to me Sagator?

Pikachu Belle
07-23-2014, 09:36 AM
I think he may of been talking about me. When I mentioned what Josh said.

Georgia
07-23-2014, 10:15 AM
No I think he's talking about me..

IBuKun
07-23-2014, 12:29 PM
Were you talking to me Sagator?

Was talking to geo. Might not be able to reply on time cause Internet is acting up.

- - - Updated - - -


The how do you feel about TR question is pretty pointless. We're all gonna say we hate them or something. I have a question that might rattle up some discussion... If you were a member of TR, in this situation right now, what would your first course of action be right now?

My answer would be to stay quiet, commenting only as needed, and observe how the others act. Staying clear of the way to cause others to suspect me. I'd give nobody a reason to think I'm a threat, and get rid of the other village members as I suspect them, to save my fellow Rocket members. That being said, if I truly were a disgusting, sniveling, cowardly Rocket member, I'd vote off a suspected Rocket to save my own behind from being voted off. :|

I await the rest of your responses as well >_>

I actually meant Gary. Had to go back to look for the actual post to confirm. Sorry geo for accusing you wrongly.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 12:46 PM
Trying a bit too hard to prove you're not a member of TR, aren't you. When you know you aren't something I don't think you'd resort to name calling. A desperate attempt to draw away suspicion from you if you ask me.

If that's about me I don't see where the basis for it is coming from since, by my understanding, I haven't fulfilled anything stated there. I'm personally more interested in Nick's lack of responding to how he would act if he were a TR member in this situation. I think everyone's answer (or lack thereof) would at least move things along as we draw closer to that ever approaching day of voting. If it means I'm drawing suspicion to myself in the process, unintentionally, at least I can say I'm getting the ball rolling.

IBuKun
07-23-2014, 01:02 PM
If that's about me I don't see where the basis for it is coming from since, by my understanding, I haven't fulfilled anything stated there. I'm personally more interested in Nick's lack of responding to how he would act if he were a TR member in this situation. I think everyone's answer (or lack thereof) would at least move things along as we draw closer to that ever approaching day of voting. If it means I'm drawing suspicion to myself in the process, unintentionally, at least I can say I'm getting the ball rolling.

I'm not pointing fingers yet.. just found your calling TR "disgusting, sniveling and cowardly" a bit unnecessary. Also coming from the fact that I've seen people try and avoid suspicious looks thrown at them by being totally against the group they are part of. I know it's not much to go or judge by but was just taking note.

If I were a part of team rocket I would wait till I see a means of causing chaos among townies. Like turn friends against each other and sow seeds of discord and confusion.

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 03:33 PM
I got to say a few of us seem quick to rush in to an aggressive role and that does raise some red flags with me, however we are all on guard right now so I guess it makes seance

Layton
07-23-2014, 06:07 PM
If I were a member, I would take one of 3 courses of action depending on the other players.
1) If yall were all for voting in the 1st 24 hours, I'd cause a stir-up and chaos. Get people riled up and make them stand out when they're voted for.
2) In a group like this, I'd probably talk and blend in. Offering advice on who to vote for or get discussions going.
3) Wait until there are less players and things quiet down before I begin discussing. Or only speak when defending myself or voting.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 06:10 PM
I got to say a few of us seem quick to rush in to an aggressive role and that does raise some red flags with me, however we are all on guard right now so I guess it makes seance

Yes, I'm quite interested in pushing the envelope. I want answers and small talking isn't gonna give us any. Besides, I'd be much more wary of those who are NOT agressively pursuing answers. A TR member not looking to be caught would obviously not be too keen on the trainers finding him or her out and getting anywhere in this game, and would if course not draw attention to themselves by being agressive in this search, or wouldn't come off as mean or aggressive in the first place. They'd pull a facade.

XTheRavenX
07-23-2014, 06:14 PM
booo i just wanna get someone killed :3

Layton
07-23-2014, 06:22 PM
booo i just wanna get someone killed :3

And that is the sort of attitude that'll make the town lose. You gotta be smart about it and not just wanting to see someone killed u.u

IBuKun
07-23-2014, 07:07 PM
I think most people are afraid their words will be used against them. Even I am worried about that but keeping too quiet and not pursuing answers on time would be costly and make us take rash decisions. I'm all for seeing what everyone is like but the more time we let go is more time TR will use to strategies on how to take the townies down.

So far so good with all the answers we have given on what we would do as TR members is there anyone who falls into that category?

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 07:24 PM
we need to start asking the right questions, the whole "what would you do if you where a TR member?" one was good it gave us a feel for what TR might do but unfortunately it didn't really give us any leads as to how it is we need to watch out for

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 07:27 PM
Sierra's answer was very detailed... Not a bad thing, but it made me think, if she is a TR member, she wouldn't blatantly admit her plans. She would claim to do the opposite of what she really would do. Not making accusations but... Just a thought u.u

There's still plenty of others who have failed to respond. *stares accusingly at individuals* >.>

Layton
07-23-2014, 07:28 PM
Sierra's answer was very detailed... Not a bad thing, but it made me think, if she is a TR member, she wouldn't blatantly admit her plans. She would claim to do the opposite of what she really would do. Not making accusations but... Just a thought u.u

There's still plenty of others who have failed to respond. *stares accusingly at individuals* >.>

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And unless I'm mistaken, today is the last day to vote, with the 48 hour time frame, or something... I may be incorrect somehow...

That's why I went ahead and put the different ways a TR member would play, or how I honestly would play as a TR member.

Update:

No one wants to be the first to cast suspicion on anyone or fire shots.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 07:34 PM
And unless I'm mistaken, today is the last day to vote, with the 48 hour time frame, or something... I may be incorrect somehow...

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That's why I went ahead and put the different ways a TR member would play, or how I honestly would play as a TR member.

You say how you would "honestly" play IF you were a TR member... But how "honestly" would a TR member trying to deceive others answer that question to begin with >.>

Layton
07-23-2014, 07:37 PM
And unless I'm mistaken, today is the last day to vote, with the 48 hour time frame, or something... I may be incorrect somehow...

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You say how you would "honestly" play IF you were a TR member... But how "honestly" would a TR member trying to deceive others answer that question to begin with >.>

Well, I'm an honest person to begin with so I'd try pretty hard to convince others to lynch without lying too much.

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 07:42 PM
well the sad thing is not enough info was gathered to accuses anyone how ever our time to vote is drawing near weather we like it or not we will need to make a choice i think we all got some very careful thinking ahead of us and i wont be surprised if an innocent trainer is blamed this time as much as i hate to put it that way, but there is just so little info to go on here

Pikachu Belle
07-23-2014, 07:49 PM
Well where shall we start then? I personally don't think anyone has acted out of the ordinary. This will be a very tough decision.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 07:56 PM
I'm new to this style of gameplay so to speak. Exactly how do we go about prying information from someone in this type of thing? How are people usually exposed??

Layton
07-23-2014, 07:59 PM
I'm new to this style of gameplay so to speak. Exactly how do we go about prying information from someone in this type of thing? How are people usually exposed??

Generally through talking, interrogating, and accusing. Information will reveal itself as the game goes along. I was confused at first, as well. But by day 3 I had the hang of things.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-23-2014, 08:02 PM
If that's about me I don't see where the basis for it is coming from since, by my understanding, I haven't fulfilled anything stated there. I'm personally more interested in Nick's lack of responding to how he would act if he were a TR member in this situation. I think everyone's answer (or lack thereof) would at least move things along as we draw closer to that ever approaching day of voting. If it means I'm drawing suspicion to myself in the process, unintentionally, at least I can say I'm getting the ball rolling.

My lack of a response was because I had to go to sleep. I felt that I would be in the line of fire if I didn't say anything.

Layton
07-23-2014, 08:10 PM
Honestly, Raven would be my first vote for today. "I just wanna get someone killed" Is a rather dangerous mindset to be dealing with.

(edited because I fixed my misquote)

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 08:20 PM
true but it doesn't sound like there was to much thinking befor she spoke on that one

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 08:22 PM
Generally through talking, interrogating, and accusing. Information will reveal itself as the game goes along. I was confused at first, as well. But by day 3 I had the hang of things.

I just mean, in a game where questions mean nothing because anyone could lie, how can a reasonable accusation come about? I mean, no ones gonna be stupid enough to say or do something suspicious that would give them away, right? I'm pretty confused his anyone gets caught when all you have to do is deny everything. I wouldn't imagine anyone sayin something like: *acts suspiciously* or *adjusts shirt with red R*. Know what I mean?

Layton
07-23-2014, 08:24 PM
I just mean, in a game where questions mean nothing because anyone could lie, how can a reasonable accusation come about? I mean, no ones gonna be stupid enough to say or do something suspicious that would give them away, right? I'm pretty confused his anyone gets caught when all you have to do is deny everything. I wouldn't imagine anyone sayin something like: *acts suspiciously* or *adjusts shirt with red R*. Know what I mean?

You look closely at who they accuse. And how their defense adds up when they do accuse someone.

IBuKun
07-23-2014, 08:27 PM
I've been mulling things over and I've decided to risk saying some things that may be used against me but I believe to be true. But we need to get answers fast cause the day is almost ending.

My suspicions are still on Gary... why?

First he brought up the "what would TR do question" it might have been a way to get things started but it kinda stalled us from getting useful answers. Something TR would do?

And I still stand behind my saying that his calling TR "slimy sniveling cowardly" is just a way to draw attention away from himself. To give an example a guy who is scared of being thought to be gay sometimes calls other gay people names.. just to put on a

Sure TR would like to lay low... that would be the obvious thing to do. So why not do the not so obvious by being active. And this is where I fear what I've said would be used against me cause I've also been quite active.

All I've said seems farfetch'd (geddit?) and Gary might be a good guy just trying hard to catch the bad guys But that's what my intuition tells me and I hope to the high heavens I'm not wrong.

Layton
07-23-2014, 08:33 PM
I've been mulling things over and I've decided to risk saying some things that may be used against me but I believe to be true. But we need to get answers fast cause the day is almost ending.

My suspicions are still on Gary... why?

First he brought up the "what would TR do question" it might have been a way to get things started but it kinda stalled us from getting useful answers. Something TR would do?

And I still stand behind my saying that his calling TR "slimy sniveling cowardly" is just a way to draw attention away from himself. To give an example a guy who is scared of being thought to be gay sometimes calls other gay people names.. just to put on a

Sure TR would like to lay low... that would be the obvious thing to do. So why not do the not so obvious by being active. And this is where I fear what I've said would be used against me cause I've also been quite active.

All I've said seems farfetch'd (geddit?) and Gary might be a good guy just trying hard to catch the bad guys But that's what my intuition tells me and I hope to the high heavens I'm not wrong.


While the mafia are likely those among us being active, I don't see that as sufficient reasoning to vote him off quite yet. I believe what he said was that a "Slimy, Sniveling, Cowardly" member would vote off another member of TR just to cover himself. You are misquoting him by lopping off the last half of that sentence.

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 08:46 PM
saying this may be used against me at some point however i will admit i to have my suspicions of Gary . . . well everyone wanted to try to get to know everyone a bit better he was the first to make a direct call to action and want to jump right in to some dark waters with no idea what to expect from anyone. that seems like a really bold move to me especially when it is fallowed up with a question like "If you were a member of TR, in this situation right now, what would your first course of action be right now?" no matter how you answer a question like that it will raise a red flag for those who answered it (this is most likely why so many just avoided it not wanting to look guilty whether they are or not) after all it's rockets job to turn us against each other. there is definitely not enough evidence to take definite action against him but i can't help but be nerves about his behavior and question his intentions

Del
07-23-2014, 09:10 PM
I'm sorry I've been inactive until now. (I was out with a friend all day)

You say Gary seems suspicious because he's been very direct, however, in the last game we played we voted off someone who was also very direct and we ended up paying for it by losing the entire game. Just because someone seems direct doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty. In all honesty, I don't seen any point in these types of questions just because it's a lying game, yet on the other hand I suppose it might be a good method of collecting data about how people write, communicate etc.

If I were a TR member I'd try to be subtle but influential. I'd try to be persuasive in my comments but I wouldn't want to draw too much attention to myself, so as to avoid people accusing me of pushing my own agenda. As for how I feel about TR, I'm suspicious of everyone and I'm really hoping I last the night.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 09:19 PM
Honestly, Raven would be my first vote for today. "I just wanna get someone killed" Is a rather dangerous mindset to be dealing with.

I considered that... I don't think anyone would say something like that and be so obvious about their evil affiliation so I think it was a statement spoken out of boredome and perhaps a little childishness as opposed to being so... Open willingly. But I guess a vote is a telling sign as well, as far as motivation and reasons and whatnot

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[QUOTE=Sagator;62243]I've been mulling things over and I've decided to risk saying some things that may be used against me but I believe to be true. But we need to get answers fast cause the day is almost ending.

My suspicions are still on Gary... why?

First he brought up the "what would TR do question" it might have been a way to get things started but it kinda stalled us from getting useful answers. Something TR would do?

And I still stand behind my saying that his calling TR "slimy sniveling cowardly" is just a way to draw attention away from himself. To give an example a guy who is scared of being thought to be gay sometimes calls other gay people names.. just to put on a

Sure TR would like to lay low... that would be the obvious thing to do. So why not do the not so obvious by being active. And this is where I fear what I've said would be used against me cause I've also been quite active.

All I've said seems farfetch'd (geddit?) and Gary might be a good guy just trying hard to catch the bad guys But that's what my intuition tells me and I hope to the high heavens I'm not wrong.

I'm not worried about being suspected, for te record. I'm well aware my words have gotten me curious eyes, and I am willing to take a fall to get some answers. Bottom line is, before I spoke up, we weren't getting anywhere. At the very least, now we have some kind of direction to go in. Even if it's the wrong one. Sanding around smiling at each other surely wasn't helping. Let's be honest. And for the record, TR IS a bunch of cowards, so I said so.

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saying this may be used against me at some point however i will admit i to have my suspicions of Gary . . . well everyone wanted to try to get to know everyone a bit better he was the first to make a direct call to action and want to jump right in to some dark waters with no idea what to expect from anyone. that seems like a really bold move to me especially when it is fallowed up with a question like "If you were a member of TR, in this situation right now, what would your first course of action be right now?" no matter how you answer a question like that it will raise a red flag for those who answered it (this is most likely why so many just avoided it not wanting to look guilty whether they are or not) after all it's rockets job to turn us against each other. there is definitely not enough evidence to take definite action against him but i can't help but be nerves about his behavior and question his intentions

Here's a confession. With a 48 hour time limit before we have to vote, as the fist day sliding by us like air, I got a little nervous we'd be voting with zero evidence. So, I decided to take the initiative and start provoking a little thought into people and get some discussion going. I don't think anyone can disagree that it worked out pretty well, though it may mean a few eyes are now on me. u.u I also strongly disagree that by answering that question, a red flag is pointed at you. I said that I asked it to get answers, so I'd say those who STILL haven't answered are all the more suspicious and even nervous.

Pikachu Belle
07-23-2014, 09:22 PM
The reason behind Ravens comment is that she's new to this and probably didn't research how to play the game well u.u However she is still a suspect for me as most of us are relatively new to this and have took a better approach to this.

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 09:29 PM
yell day 1 is almost to a close, we might want to start thinking about our votes soon, we have no choice but to vote and this first one is clearly going to be a hard choice

Pikachu Belle
07-23-2014, 09:52 PM
Is nobody going to vote? I don't really fancy being the first.. :/

Del
07-23-2014, 09:57 PM
I don't know who to vote for yet...:confused:

IBuKun
07-23-2014, 10:00 PM
Is it night already?

DigiTheTraitor
07-23-2014, 10:00 PM
i don't like drawing first blood it never looks good but someone has to i guess
##Vote: GaryEhffinOke

i got to vote one way or another and he is the only one to make me suspicious so far sorry man nothing personal

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-23-2014, 10:26 PM
##Vote: Sierra

She just seems to be saying things taht make me suspicious. What she would do if she were a Rocket. Her claims of being truthful and not a liar. There's nothing she's said that I wouldn't expect a member if the deceiving TR to state. That, and the fact there are little others to choose from. Sierra, I guess you might say, seems too good to be true. u.u there are others I suspect, too, but not conclusively enough by comparison. u.u

Pikachu Belle
07-23-2014, 10:32 PM
I had my suspicions over Raven but.. She doesn't understand. Sierra.. Now she does strike as suspicious to me. I would list my reasons but they would match those above. There would be no good in repeating what others have said.

##Vote: Sierra

Del
07-23-2014, 10:51 PM
I'm not really convinced by anyone's argument for lynching yet...

Del
07-23-2014, 11:34 PM
##Vote: Gary

I don't feel very convinced by his argument against Sierra.

Baby Koga
07-23-2014, 11:55 PM
As the sun begins to set over the metropolis of Saffron City, tensions run high between the trainers. Who do you suspect? Who can be trusted?

As a reminder, you are obliged to vote once per "DAY". The only exceptions to this is if you have been "paralysed" by Electabuzz or if you have a genuine real life reason, in which case should be reported to me via pm. I know there are a lot of first timers in this game so I will be lenient. However, in general, a first offece will warrant a warning and a second offence without any great justification will result in you being mod killed.

Just over 11 hours remaining to vote...

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 12:17 AM
##Vote: Gary

I don't feel very convinced by his argument against Sierra.

In my defense, I must say, not being convinced by my argument isn't necessarily grounds to vote me off... In fact it comes off rather irrational and fairly suspicious, imo. Whereas if my reasons to vote off Sierra were mysterious or strange, that might be a different story.

Haymac
07-24-2014, 12:44 AM
Hmm.. ##vote: Gary

Layton
07-24-2014, 01:09 AM
Fine, you can vote for me, but it won't get you anywhere. Voting for me because I seem "too good to be true?" I'm just being myself here. Ask Josh or Charlie, they'll both testify to the fact that I'm no deceiver. I haven't said anything "suspicious" Gary is just wary of me because I'm apparently too honest :p I trust Gary for now, so I won't be sending the vote back to him. I'm going to ##vote: Haymac unless he can give a reason behind his vote.

Layton
07-24-2014, 01:16 AM
I had my suspicions over Raven but.. She doesn't understand. Sierra.. Now she does strike as suspicious to me. I would list my reasons but they would match those above. There would be no good in repeating what others have said.

##Vote: Sierra

The thing about this game is that you need to post your reasoning. Even if it mirrors someone else's suspicions. You've got to convince people to vote for who want gone, and simply saying that you agree with another statement, won't get that.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 01:20 AM
The thing about this game is that you need to post your reasoning. Even if it mirrors someone else's suspicions. You've got to convince people to vote for who want gone, and simply saying that you agree with another statement, won't get that.

I must agree. I found it very unsettling there wasn't even a reason given to vote me off :/

Gaming Master 2000
07-24-2014, 01:23 AM
##Vote: GaryEhffinOak


I'd be much more wary of those who are NOT agressively pursuing answers.

A question I had to ask myself was: Is Gary agressively pursuing answers because he's actually trying to find TR or is he pursuing them because he's trying to cover the fact he is TR?

Sierra also answers his question where he then stated:


There's still plenty of others who have failed to respond. *stares accusingly at individuals* >.>

Others who didn't respond to his question he "stares accusingly at" but then goes and votes for someone who gave a detailed answer to his question because it was "too good to be true". Seems odd to me. Sierra's answer doesn't scream TR to me so why vote for someone who answered and (so far) seems like a regular trainer over someone who didn't answer.

We have to vote for someone and time is running out so I'm taking a chance.

Note: Since I started writing this there's been a few more posts which have raised some valid questions so I'm not ruling out changing my vote before the end of the day.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 01:27 AM
Fine, you can vote for me, but it won't get you anywhere. Voting for me because I seem "too good to be true?" I'm just being myself here. Ask Josh or Charlie, they'll both testify to the fact that I'm no deceiver. I haven't said anything "suspicious" Gary is just wary of me because I'm apparently too honest :p I trust Gary for now, so I won't be sending the vote back to him. I'm going to ##vote: Haymac unless he can give a reason behind his vote.

No. Not because you're too honest. I just feel that if you are a TR member, it won't be easy to tell. I'm sure you'd be able to keep up the facade if you were one. You've been pretty active and spoken on your disdain for the gang, but I feel strange about you saying things like you're honest and whatnot. If you're TR, you wouldn't tell us. What'd be the point in joining if you were only going to give yourself away? It just stands out to me too much. But I see people are suspicious of my determination for answers... Blame me for getting the decision jumping before the time limit arrived, then u.u

Layton
07-24-2014, 01:34 AM
No. Not because you're too honest. I just feel that if you are a TR member, it won't be easy to tell. I'm sure you'd be able to keep up the facade if you were one. You've been pretty active and spoken on your disdain for the gang, but I feel strange about you saying things like you're honest and whatnot. If you're TR, you wouldn't tell us. What'd be the point in joining if you were only going to give yourself away? It just stands out to me too much.

Yes, but, if I were a member of TR wouldn't I fight more my innocence more? I can't do anything about you suspecting me. I've no way to prove my innocence to you. And while I did say that I'm a generally honest person and isn't good at deceiving, I didn't make it obvious. Also, I don't recall stating any disdain for TR members. They're fighting to win as we are, so I'm not gonna throw names and insults at them u.u

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 01:41 AM
Yes, but, if I were a member of TR wouldn't I fight more my innocence more? I can't do anything about you suspecting me. I've no way to prove my innocence to you. And while I did say that I'm a generally honest person and isn't good at deceiving, I didn't make it obvious. Also, I don't recall stating any disdain for TR members. They're fighting to win as we are, so I'm not gonna throw names and insults at them u.u

You MIGHT fight for your innocence. You might not. Either decision could be viewed as a TR option tbh. You had said TR was a threat. I guess that doesn't mean you disdain them. But I had assumed you had said something like that. I guess that was an error on my part to assume u.u Yeah, they're fighting to win, but I know of there work, and will proudly tear their name down knowing who they are and what they stand for. Both the Trainers, and TR, are fighting to win. I'd assume a Trainer would gladly insult TR. But you've admitted you're not willing to do that... Guess I'm the only one who finds that suspicious.

DigiTheTraitor
07-24-2014, 01:44 AM
as i said before gary, you where the first to bring a call to action, you asked a question that would yeald such a variety of answers that no matter how some one played they would most likely match one of the profiles given. as i stated when i voted it was nothing personal but to me thus far you where the only one that raised suspicion to me. i had to vote for someone and i figured i would have to vote for the one who raised the most worry to me

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 01:46 AM
as i said before gary, you where the first to bring a call to action, you asked a question that would yeald such a variety of answers that no matter how some one played they would most likely match one of the profiles given. as i stated when i voted it was nothing personal but to me thus far you where the only one that raised suspicion to me. i had to vote for someone and i figured i would have to vote for the one who raised the most worry to me

That's fine by me u.u

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:04 AM
You MIGHT fight for your innocence. You might not. Either decision could be viewed as a TR option tbh. You had said TR was a threat. I guess that doesn't mean you disdain them. But I had assumed you had said something like that. I guess that was an error on my part to assume u.u Yeah, they're fighting to win, but I know of there work, and will proudly tear their name down knowing who they are and what they stand for. Both the Trainers, and TR, are fighting to win. I'd assume a Trainer would gladly insult TR. But you've admitted you're not willing to do that... Guess I'm the only one who finds that suspicious.

The way you're saying makes it seem like I refuse to insult them. It's not that I refuse, it's just that it won't get us anywhere. Saying "Down with TR, those scumbags!" Won't make me seem any more townie than simply abstaining from the mudslinging. And yes, they are a threat and I want them gone. Don't take my comment of them fighting to win as sympathy for them. And yes, a trainer probably would. But I don't gladly insult people. That's just a personal belief of mine, along with honesty. Giving people the benefit of the doubt is another, which is why I haven't accused you yet. You seem to be fighting awfully hard to lynch me. Who were the other suspects you spoke of?

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 02:13 AM
The way you're saying makes it seem like I refuse to insult them. It's not that I refuse, it's just that it won't get us anywhere. Saying "Down with TR, those scumbags!" Won't make me seem any more townie than simply abstaining from the mudslinging. And yes, they are a threat and I want them gone. Don't take my comment of them fighting to win as sympathy for them. And yes, a trainer probably would. But I don't gladly insult people. That's just a personal belief of mine, along with honesty. Giving people the benefit of the doubt is another, which is why I haven't accused you yet. You seem to be fighting awfully hard to lynch me. Who were the other suspects you spoke of?

I suspect everyone because it'd be stupid not to. But I have my own small special number of people I either believe are TR, or have a good possibility but with little backup evidence, in my head. I don't see the good in pointing fingers so openly. That can only lead to even more fingers jabbing at me, like I don't have enough already :/ surely if I admit I think a member is TR, and they actually are, I'm gonna go bye bye. Which, if I may add, makes it even more strange that you what me to start pointing out ppl now... But again, I guess I'm the only one noticing things...

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:16 AM
I suspect everyone because it'd be stupid not to. But I have my own small special number of people I either believe are TR, or have a good possibility but with little backup evidence, in my head. I don't see the good in pointing fingers so openly. That can only lead to even more fingers jabbing at me, like I don't have enough already :/ surely if I admit I think a member is TR, and they actually are, I'm gonna go bye bye. Which, if I may add, makes it even more strange that you what me to start pointing out ppl now... But again, I guess I'm the only one noticing things...

I don't want you to start pointing fingers necessarily, I'm just saying that I have defended myself but you still seem set on me when you even suspect others. Focusing on one person until they're gone is the wrong route to take in this game, my friend.

And you keep saying that you're the only one "noticing things" I've put all I am out there. No more, no less. I have no idea what it is that you think you're "Noticing".

Also, you say that pointing fingers is not wise. But you even said that discussions need to be started. How do you expect these people to speak up and show their defense unless you provoke them to?

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 02:22 AM
I don't want you to start pointing fingers necessarily, I'm just saying that I have defended myself but you still seem set on me when you even suspect others. Focusing on one person until they're gone is the wrong route to take in this game, my friend.

And you keep saying that you're the only one "noticing things" I've put all I am out there. No more, no less. I have no idea what it is that you think you're "Noticing".

Also, you say that pointing fingers is not wise. But you even said that discussions need to be started. How do you expect these people to speak up and show their defense unless you provoke them to?

I can't prove what I'm "noticing." You could very much be innocent. I know tht, but I keep finding links and reasons, and you continue to deny the slight chance you're a TR member because I ours supposedly so open and honest. It's just illogical to trust you based on that alone.

I'll provoke conversation as I feel the need, if I stay here long enough and am not kicked out. I'm not gonna cause mayhem and point out several ppl just so they can all vote me out in one swoop. That's reckless.

I'm also not gonna focus on you, one sole person, until you're out. But at the moment, you seem the most likely suspect imo.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 02:30 AM
Sierra your puttin too much thought into my words, understand that people will be pushing attention away from them, therefore pointing fingers and trying to take down other people, I on the other hand have nothing to worry about so ima just lay back and watch the show ^~^ I still thin Tammie is an evil Bunny tho >.>

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:30 AM
I can't prove what I'm "noticing." You could very much be innocent. I know tht, but I keep finding links and reasons, and you continue to deny the slight chance you're a TR member because I ours supposedly so open and honest. It's just illogical to trust you based on that alone.

I'll provoke conversation as I feel the need, if I stay here long enough and am not kicked out. I'm not gonna cause mayhem and point out several ppl just so they can all vote me out in one swoop. That's reckless.

I'm also not gonna focus on you, one sole person, until you're out. But at the moment, you seem the most likely suspect imo.

I can respect that, I guess. But it's illogical to trust anyone. And I'm not asking you to point fingers at everyone and cause mayhem.


I have about 4 suspects for now, and I don't want them all pointing at me, so I can see where you're coming from.

Let me ask you this, though. If I'm the most likely person to you.... Does that mean I stand out? Does standing out seem anything at all like a smart TR member would do?

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:32 AM
Sierra your puttin too much thought into my words, understand that people will be pushing attention away from them, therefore pointing fingers and trying to take down other people, I on the other hand have nothing to worry about so ima just lay back and watch the show ^~^ I still thin Tammie is an evil Bunny tho >.>

May I ask what makes you say that you've nothing to worry about? No one here gets to just kick-back and watch the show :p You're a part of this, you're a risk, and you're a candidate for being lynched. I don't see how you've nothing to worry about tbh.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 02:39 AM
Because unles you are wearing a white shirt with a big red "R" or have a talking meowth, u dont have anything to worry about, its funny how everyone here is pointing fingers and using people's words against them and dont realize that thats what makes them look more suspicious, as for me, I may be new to the game, I may not ;) but one thing is certain, every time u point one finger at someone, three others are pointing back at you..what you say now can hurt u in the long run, the game just started so there really isnt any hard evidence on anyone, but a couple days later this can really hurt anyone :3 js :D

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 02:40 AM
I can respect that, I guess. But it's illogical to trust anyone. And I'm not asking you to point fingers at everyone and cause mayhem.


I have about 4 suspects for now, and I don't want them all pointing at me, so I can see where you're coming from.

Let me ask you this, though. If I'm the most likely person to you.... Does that mean I stand out? Does standing out seem anything at all like a smart TR member would do?

Think of it this way. Would a TR member want to stand out, or be silent and hidden? Now, think about this. No matter what the answer to that is, he or she would be smart to think: well, they expect me to be one way, so I'm gonna go be the opposite. In order words, would a smart TR member want to stand out isn't the question. The question is, a smart TR member would most likely want to be the opposite of what he or she thinks everyone else expects a TR member to be. Only a foolish TR member is gonna act exactly how everyone thinks a TR member will act. You stand out because of how much you claim it's impossible that you could be one. You say you don't like lying and etc. You say a TR member wouldn't do this or would do that. It sounds like diversions to keep people from thinking it's you. It's like, you do one thing, and then say a TR member would never do that. Yes, you do stand out. And while you may be innocent, you don't stand out in the right way to me right now.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 02:41 AM
Because unles you are wearing a white shirt with a big red "R" or have a talking meowth, u dont have anything to worry about, its funny how everyone here is pointing fingers and using people's words against them and dont realize that thats what makes them look more suspicious, as for me, I may be new to the game, I may not ;) but one thing is certain, every time u point one finger at someone, three others are pointing back at you..what you say now can hurt u in the long run, the game just started so there really isnt any hard evidence on anyone, but a couple days later this can really hurt anyone :3 js :D

The weird thing is you say there's no reason to worry but you have at least one finger pointing at you already, based on the archives...

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:41 AM
Because unles you are wearing a white shirt with a big red "R" or have a talking meowth, u dont have anything to worry about, its funny how everyone here is pointing fingers and using people's words against them and dont realize that thats what makes them look more suspicious, as for me, I may be new to the game, I may not ;) but one thing is certain, every time u point one finger at someone, three others are pointing back at you..what you say now can hurt u in the long run, the game just started so there really isnt any hard evidence on anyone, but a couple days later this can really hurt anyone :3 js :D

I already know that, Raven. And I'm not really pointing fingers at anyone. Only simply trying to figure out why they're being pointed at me.

And just because you aren't obviously a TR member, doesn't mean that you've nothing to worry about. In a game full of guessing and deceit, everyone has a finger pointed at them. Even you.

Fabulous Charlie
07-24-2014, 02:41 AM
Good evening all you beautiful people <3

Sorry for my very delayed response. Keeping up with this discussion gave me quite a headache that I had to cure.

Anyway after browsing through, and reading people's answers. I have concluded that Gary is innocent and would like to vote for ##Vote: Sagator.

Quite honestly, there isn't much for Sierra to be voted off. This seems more like a personal vendetta that Mr. Oak seems to have against Sierra u.u bad Gary!

Before I give my reasons, I would like to point out two comments made by Asuna (Tammie) and Geo.

"We need to listen to people defending themselves" - Asuna which was, "The main reason mafia won in the other thread" - Geo.

We need to listen/read other people's comments. Since the beginning of this thread, Gary has been very direct and active. He started conversations and has psychoanalyzed people's answers. Its pretty obvious that Gary is innocent. Just reread the answers to the question, if you were involved with TR what would you do? All of the answers given basically made everyone suspicious. Anyone falls into that category.

Mr.SandMan/Digi is only voting for Gary because his response to that question was, "if i was team rocket i would think it would make more seance to be an active talker, after all TR members are liars and cheats aren't they, i would think a rocket member would want to stir up confusion and try to turn us against each other with questions made to distract us or cast a guilty shadow on other trainers. after all the more of us that look guilty the harder it would be to find the real team rocket members", which evidently describes Gary's responses.

Saga actually makes a good point about Gary, which I agree with (though I am quite surprised he voted for Gary);

“You say Gary seems suspicious because he's been very direct, however, in the last game we played we voted off someone who was also very direct and we ended up paying for it by losing the entire game. Just because someone seems direct doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty. In all honesty, I don't seen any point in these types of questions just because it's a lying game, yet on the other hand I suppose it might be a good method of collecting data about how people write, communicate etc.”


I am voting for Sagator. Gary has repeatedly defended himself, but Sagator refuses to listen and continuously pursuits Gary. I am still confused about Saga though...He just made it to the top of my list u.u

If my response didn't make sense or you need more answers. Please ask ^^

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:43 AM
Think of it this way. Would a TR member want to stand out, or be silent and hidden? Now, think about this. No matter what the answer to that is, he or she would be smart to think: well, they expect me to be one way, so I'm gonna go be the opposite. In order words, would a smart TR member want to stand out isn't the question. The question is, a smart TR member would most likely want to be the opposite of what he or she thinks everyone else expects a TR member to be. Only a foolish TR member is gonna act exactly how everyone thinks a TR member will act. You stand out because of how much you claim it's impossible that you could be one. You say you don't like lying and etc. You say a TR member wouldn't do this or would do that. It sounds like diversions to keep people from thinking it's you. It's like, you do one thing, and then say a TR member would never do that. Yes, you do stand out. And while you may be innocent, you don't stand out in the right way to me right now.

Now, I never said me being TR is impossible. It's very possible if I was doing what you think I'm doing. Your concerns are justified as I guess I could see how my actions would be taken that way.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 02:47 AM
At this point Gary is just defending himself, so is Sierra, but theres more to it, if the only question being thrown around is what would a TR member do, than the moment u anwser that question you are considered a suspect, thats like giving someone a witchcraft test, if they are inocent, they will drown in the river, and if they are gulty, they wil be lynched by the river...either way u will end up losing im not voting yet..but something tells me that the evil bunny is around :3

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 02:51 AM
Good evening all you beautiful people <3

Sorry for my very delayed response. Keeping up with this discussion gave me quite a headache that I had to cure.

Anyway after browsing through, and reading people's answers. I have concluded that Gary is innocent and would like to vote for ##Vote: Sagator.

Quite honestly, there isn't much for Sierra to be voted off. This seems more like a personal vendetta that Mr. Oak seems to have against Sierra u.u bad Gary!

Before I give my reasons, I would like to point out two comments made by Asuna (Tammie) and Geo.

"We need to listen to people defending themselves" - Asuna which was, "The main reason mafia won in the other thread" - Geo.

We need to listen/read other people's comments. Since the beginning of this thread, Gary has been very direct and active. He started conversations and has psychoanalyzed people's answers. Its pretty obvious that Gary is innocent. Just reread the answers to the question, if you were involved with TR what would you do? All of the answers given basically made everyone suspicious. Anyone falls into that category.

Mr.SandMan/Digi is only voted for Gary because his response to that question was, "if i was team rocket i would think it would make more seance to be an active talker, after all TR members are liars and cheats aren't they, i would think a rocket member would want to stir up confusion and try to turn us against each other with questions made to distract us or cast a guilty shadow on other trainers. after all the more of us that look guilty the harder it would be to find the real team rocket members", which evidently describes Gary's responses.

Saga actually makes a good point about Gary, which I agree with (though I am quite surprised he voted for Gary);

“You say Gary seems suspicious because he's been very direct, however, in the last game we played we voted off someone who was also very direct and we ended up paying for it by losing the entire game. Just because someone seems direct doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty. In all honesty, I don't seen any point in these types of questions just because it's a lying game, yet on the other hand I suppose it might be a good method of collecting data about how people write, communicate etc.”


I am voting for Sagator. Gary has repeatedly defended himself, but Sagator refuses to listen and continuously pursuits Gary. I am still confused about Saga though...He just made it to the top of my list u.u

If my response didn't make sense or you need more answers. Please ask ^^

For the record, I am not after Sierra for personal reasons... I wouldn't be blinded by any personal disdain for her >.> I genuinely feel a reason to vote her off. Based on what I've said, I feel backed up in my claim, and if I find reason I'll of course leave her be. But during this swiftly ending day, I stand by my vote.

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:55 AM
For the record, I am not after Sierra for personal reasons... I wouldn't be blinded by any personal disdain for her >.> I genuinely feel a reason to vote her off. Based on what I've said, I feel backed up in my claim, and if I find reason I'll of course leave her be. But during this swiftly ending day, I stand by my vote.

Now that's the way to play! Too many people often say "Voting for -name here- because of reasons already stated" You've made your claim, backed it up, and you're sticking by it? Good. Play the whole game that way and you'll do well.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 02:57 AM
##Vote: Sierra

Why? Well why not bpend in with the crowd :3 xD nah, jkjk the reason im voting her off is because of the fact that she has been the one I have noticed to really tey to fit in, giving trick questions and vague anwsers, I feel like her trying to blend in is what makes her stand out the most, saying that there are certain things that a Tr member would do, and then not doing those things

Layton
07-24-2014, 02:59 AM
##Vote: Sierra

Why? Well why not bpend in with the crowd :3 xD nah, jkjk the reason im voting her off is because of the fact that she has been the one I have noticed to really tey to fit in, giving trick questions and vague anwsers, I feel like her trying to blend in is what makes her stand out the most, saying that there are certain things that a Tr member would do, and then not doing those things

Vague answers? Trick questions? I have been clear and concise in my questions and answers. Your lack of concern for yourself is more suspicious than my responses u.u

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:03 AM
At the very beginning u didn't ask what a tr member would or wouldnt do, you simply stated it all, that alone caused an uproar(get it ;) ) because from there on people were using that as an outline, the thing is that some thought that it was what a tr member would do, and others thought it is exactly what a tr member would not do, that to me looks like a seed of deception, and that alone makes me want to vote you off

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:05 AM
At the very beginning u didn't ask what a tr member would or wouldnt do, you simply stated it all, that alone caused an uproar(get it ;) ) because from there on people were using that as an outline, the thing is that some thought that it was what a tr member would do, and others thought it is exactly what a tr member would not do, that to me looks like a seed of deception, and that alone makes me want to vote you off

I'd suggest you read farther back from there. I was asked what I would do as a TR member. And like many others, I stated what I would do as a TR member.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:06 AM
You were not asked, we all were, you seemed pretty confident on letting everyone know the exact details of it, its like u had a rule book made with a tittle saying "what to do and what not to in case of suspicion" .-.

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:09 AM
You were not asked, we all were, you seemed pretty confident on letting everyone know the exact details of it, its like u had a rule book made with a tittle saying "what to do and what not to in case of suspicion" .-.

Is there something wrong with giving a clear answer to the question? It was indeed directed at all of us, which makes us all obligated to answer or face accusation. I knew what I would do as a TR member, and I let others know so that they could keep an eye out for anyone who had the same line of thinking as me. A simple "I would lie low" Or "I'd blend in!" Are not the only answers to that question. This game is ALL ABOUT details. The more the better in many cases.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:14 AM
When ur given a question, u have the choice of answering it, or waiting to see someone step puts line with their anwsers, like I said earlier the whole "what would a tr member do" question is a trick question, and the moment u anwser u become a suspect..you were the only one to give such an anwser, like u just stated u mentioned the thing that YOU would do, yet ur saying it so u can let others know what to look out for in OTHER people

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:16 AM
Plus details are no fun :( why do u think csi shows last an hour? Its better to keep things in suspense *takes stolen pokemon to pc* it cant be all about details and suspicion :D its more fun when someone mixes things up...like that twist in the movie you never see coming

DigiTheTraitor
07-24-2014, 03:16 AM
just taking a tallie so far we are at 4 votes Gary 3 votes Sierra and 1 vote Sagator

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:17 AM
When ur given a question, u have the choice of answering it, or waiting to see someone step puts line with their anwsers, like I said earlier the whole "what would a tr member do" question is a trick question, and the moment u anwser u become a suspect..you were the only one to give such an anwser, like u just stated u mentioned the thing that YOU would do, yet ur saying it so u can let others know what to look out for in OTHER people
Of course in OTHER people. Would you like people to automatically vote for you? Townie or TR, no one wants to be pointed at, and yet you are condemning me for giving a concise answer. Questions get discussions going, and discussions bring answers. By NOT answering, I would have appeared just as guilty. Waiting for someone else to act is not how I do things. If a question is asked, and I've no problem answering it, I'm gonna answer it. There is nothing wrong with me stating exactly what I'd do as a TR member.

DigiTheTraitor
07-24-2014, 03:18 AM
can someone double check that we started voting about half way down page 6 i just want to make it easier for everyone to keep track of

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:19 AM
Plus details are no fun :( why do u think csi shows last an hour? Its better to keep things in suspense *takes stolen pokemon to pc* it cant be all about details and suspicion :D its more fun when someone mixes things up...like that twist in the movie you never see coming

No, it isn't. This isn't a movie where you know that the good guys will still come out on top. A lack in details could kill the whole town. And your behavior is mildly disturbing. As if you don't care about the town winning, you just want to see some action.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:19 AM
Plus details are no fun :( why do u think csi shows last an hour? Its better to keep things in suspense *takes stolen pokemon to pc* it cant be all about details and suspicion :D its more fun when someone mixes things up...like that twist in the movie you never see coming

You certain do add quite the... "unique" character to this mystery, that's for sure.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:21 AM
can someone double check that we started voting about half way down page 6 i just want to make it easier for everyone to keep track of

It looks like it started on page 6 with a vote against me

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:22 AM
Well hell I dont mind voting for myself, its all about that detail people overlook, everyone tries to get down to the smallest details, but usually the anwser is right infront of ur eyes, so in my eyes, I see a trick question be anwsered in such a way where u were able to basically divide everyone in here into those who believe ehat u said is absolutely true, and those who think that its all backwards and wha u said is exactly wha they wouldnt do, so I find that to be the seed of deception, and thats my reason for voting u off :3 everything else is just me tryna spice thing up :) dont mind the crazy girl w the team rocket shirt...uh I mean the Rutgers university shirt xD :p

DigiTheTraitor
07-24-2014, 03:22 AM
lol i know that (i was the first to vote unfortunately) i ment the number of votes for each person though

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:25 AM
Well thats the thing, I cant tell u if I care if the town dies or not, then that would give my position away, I can be Tr, I can be freaking Giovanni for all we know, or I can be red tryna save the day, either way I have neutral feelings for the town

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:26 AM
You certain do add quite the... "unique" character to this mystery, that's for sure.

Im trying my hardest :3 its fun

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:26 AM
Well hell I dont mind voting for myself, its all about that detail people overlook, everyone tries to get down to the smallest details, but usually the anwser is right infront of ur eyes, so in my eyes, I see a trick question be anwsered in such a way where u were able to basically divide everyone in here into those who believe ehat u said is absolutely true, and those who think that its all backwards and wha u said is exactly wha they wouldnt do, so I find that to be the seed of deception, and thats my reason for voting u off :3 everything else is just me tryna spice thing up :) dont mind the crazy girl w the team rocket shirt...uh I mean the Rutgers university shirt xD :p

Not minding the crazy girl spicing things up doesn't seem like a very good idea tbh. It looks like you're trying to start trouble/chaos on purpose.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:27 AM
lol i know that (i was the first to vote unfortunately) i ment the number of votes for each person though

your count is accurate by my deduction

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:29 AM
If I dont start things, then who will, questions lead to discussions whoch leads to answers, but chaos and trouble bring out thr true colors of people :)

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:32 AM
If I dont start things, then who will, questions lead to discussions whoch leads to answers, but chaos and trouble bring out thr true colors of people :)

No, chaos and madness lead to people pointing fingers and getting lynched for little reason. It leads to bandwagoning votes no real reasoning. This isn't a game of maddness. If you want to win, you've got to be smart and calm.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:32 AM
I'm gonna throw in another of my two cents. I don't suspect Raven at all. Like, out of everywhere, she's the bottom of my list of suspects. It's possible she is a TR member, DUH, but her attitude is precisely that of a TR member, which only makes me not even think twice about accusing her. I think her mind state inthis little game we're playing is psychologically enticing and playful and she's decided to take the role of starting problems for her own enjoyment. Contrary to everyone else's more serious take, she's taking advantage by purposely getting under certain people's skin. On the other hand, she may want me to think this so she can get away with her nefarious schemes. But my stance on her stands for right now. Just wanted to say that.

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:33 AM
If I dont start things, then who will, questions lead to discussions whoch leads to answers, but chaos and trouble bring out thr true colors of people :)

Well that's exactly what I was doing but I ended up in the top list of the vote off -_-

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:34 AM
No, chaos and madness lead to people pointing fingers and getting lynched for little reason. It leads to bandwagoning votes no real reasoning. This isn't a game of maddness. If you want to win, you've got to be smart and calm.

I think she's doing very well of an act personally. It's annoying as all hell but it supposed to be. And in all honesty, without something to spice this up, whether it be my intense questions or Raben's antics, my bet is this forum wouldn't have advanced as fast as it has. Just my opinion.

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:35 AM
I'm gonna throw in another of my two cents. I don't suspect Raven at all. Like, out of everywhere, she's the bottom of my list of suspects. It's possible he is a TR member, DUH, but her attitude is precisely that of a TR member, which only makes me not even think twice about accusing her. I think her mind state inthis little game we're playing is psychologically enticing and playful and she's decided to take the role of starting problems for her own enjoyment. Contrary to everyone else's more serious take, she's taking advantage by purposely getting under certain people's skin. On the other hand, she may want me to think this so she can get away with her nefarious schemes. But my stance on her stands for right now. Just wanted to say that.

I'm pretty much the same with you on that. I think she's got a 50% chance of being either TR or town imo. But whether she is or isn't, stirring up trouble won't be good for anyone but herself in this game.

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:37 AM
Well that's exactly what I was doing but I ended up in the top list of the vote off -_-

Yeah I peeped that xD its just that everyone's defenses are so high right now that no one is bothering to go on the offensive, then again the best defense is a great offense, or is it the other way around o.O idk im too busy making a "I am part of Team rocket" sign, I wonder who should I give this to

Geo Sakuraba
07-24-2014, 03:37 AM
It seems this day is drawing to a close but I do have a good reason to vote Gary... Gary is my suspect now because I know I came in late but in the previous posts I vote Gary for asking that question which will make it obvious that he will not do what we had said later on because Im sure that he WILL do the opposite of what we said so I might regret this later on but since my feeling is 60% Bad Gary rather than 60% Good Gary he will be the one im voting...
##Vote: GaryEhffinOak

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:39 AM
It seems this day is drawing to a close but I do have a good reason to vote Gary... Gary is my suspect now because I know I came in late but in the previous posts I vote Gary for asking that question which will make it obvious that he will not do what we had said later on because Im sure that he WILL do the opposite of what we said so I might regret this later on but since my feeling is 60% Bad Gary rather than 60% Good Gary he will be the one im voting...
##Vote: GaryEhffinOak
This is what I was talking about, that question split everyone in here in half, sometimes its best to ignore the most obvious details, opens ur eyes more

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:44 AM
Next time I just won't provoke discussion if this is the thanks I get u_u

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:45 AM
Next time I just won't provoke discussion if this is the thanks I get u_u

Its okieee!!! Ill be there to do it for you :O

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:53 AM
Next time I just won't provoke discussion if this is the thanks I get u_u
Provoking discussion is good! You helped get the ball rolling. It's just what you talk about that can bite you in the butt. Apparently like me answering too much or being too open... Oh well. You live and you learn.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-24-2014, 03:54 AM
Afternoon all! You know that expression "Miss a day, miss a lot"? That very well applies to today's game! Anyway after I have done some reading I am ready to cast my vote, so here goes:

##Vote: Sagator
He's been rather pushy to get Gary voted off... Even though Gary has done nothing to warrant a vote even if he did ask one question to attempt to psychoanalyze us and our answers. And too be honest Sagator has just come off a bit too pushy in my eyes. So as a result I'm voting for Sagator

DigiTheTraitor
07-24-2014, 03:55 AM
for now Raven seems like an inconvenience but little more then that i don't give her posts to much attention or back up to them, unless she starts totruely rase red flags i wont pay her any attention really

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:56 AM
Oh no its the champion of the pokebay league!!!, he has to be the leader of Tr, its the most ironic, funniest thing yhat could happen....and it can also be true

GaryEhffinJoaker
07-24-2014, 03:57 AM
“You say Gary seems suspicious because he's been very direct, however, in the last game we played we voted off someone who was also very direct and we ended up paying for it by losing the entire game."

No further comment u.u

XTheRavenX
07-24-2014, 03:57 AM
for now Raven seems like an inconvenience but little more then that i don't give her posts to much attention or back up to them, unless she starts totruely rase red flags i wont pay her any attention really

So sad :( what do I have to do to get some atention around here :( steal peoples pokemon :/

Layton
07-24-2014, 03:57 AM
for now Raven seems like an inconvenience but little more then that i don't give her posts to much attention or back up to them, unless she starts totruely rase red flags i wont pay her any attention really
I'll probably do the same thing for a little while. But not long, most likely.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-24-2014, 05:22 AM
Oh no its the champion of the pokebay league!!!, he has to be the leader of Tr, its the most ironic, funniest thing yhat could happen....and it can also be true

Better yet it'd be funny if you were a TR trying to stir the pot.

Georgia
07-24-2014, 05:32 AM
I'm going to start to think about the ones who haven't said much and for a moment not focus on the ones who have a higher chance of being voted.

IBuKun
07-24-2014, 07:32 AM
Good evening all you beautiful people <3

Sorry for my very delayed response. Keeping up with this discussion gave me quite a headache that I had to cure.

Anyway after browsing through, and reading people's answers. I have concluded that Gary is innocent and would like to vote for ##Vote: Sagator.

Quite honestly, there isn't much for Sierra to be voted off. This seems more like a personal vendetta that Mr. Oak seems to have against Sierra u.u bad Gary!

Before I give my reasons, I would like to point out two comments made by Asuna (Tammie) and Geo.

"We need to listen to people defending themselves" - Asuna which was, "The main reason mafia won in the other thread" - Geo.

We need to listen/read other people's comments. Since the beginning of this thread, Gary has been very direct and active. He started conversations and has psychoanalyzed people's answers. Its pretty obvious that Gary is innocent. Just reread the answers to the question, if you were involved with TR what would you do? All of the answers given basically made everyone suspicious. Anyone falls into that category.

Mr.SandMan/Digi is only voting for Gary because his response to that question was, "if i was team rocket i would think it would make more seance to be an active talker, after all TR members are liars and cheats aren't they, i would think a rocket member would want to stir up confusion and try to turn us against each other with questions made to distract us or cast a guilty shadow on other trainers. after all the more of us that look guilty the harder it would be to find the real team rocket members", which evidently describes Gary's responses.

Saga actually makes a good point about Gary, which I agree with (though I am quite surprised he voted for Gary);

“You say Gary seems suspicious because he's been very direct, however, in the last game we played we voted off someone who was also very direct and we ended up paying for it by losing the entire game. Just because someone seems direct doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty. In all honesty, I don't seen any point in these types of questions just because it's a lying game, yet on the other hand I suppose it might be a good method of collecting data about how people write, communicate etc.”


I am voting for Sagator. Gary has repeatedly defended himself, but Sagator refuses to listen and continuously pursuits Gary. I am still confused about Saga though...He just made it to the top of my list u.u

If my response didn't make sense or you need more answers. Please ask ^^

First of all I haven't voted.

Second, I only pointed out reasons why I suspect/accuse Gary of being TR. Was awaiting his response before I vote. And even I am beginning to have doubts to my claim. And about my pursuit it him: it's a lying game so forgive me if I decide to take what he says with a pinch of salt. He hasn't done a thorough job of convincing me he isn't TR but looking back on the previous game it seems kind of dumb to accuse someone cause he's active. I'll need to read the rest of the thread to understand his and sierra's defence and then I will cast my vote.

IBuKun
07-24-2014, 07:47 AM
Afternoon all! You know that expression "Miss a day, miss a lot"? That very well applies to today's game! Anyway after I have done some reading I am ready to cast my vote, so here goes:

##Vote: Sagator
He's been rather pushy to get Gary voted off... Even though Gary has done nothing to warrant a vote even if he did ask one question to attempt to psychoanalyze us and our answers. And too be honest Sagator has just come off a bit too pushy in my eyes. So as a result I'm voting for Sagator

Yes.. I pushed hard. But that was just me stating my opinion and I don't think you're going to get good answers from being soft in the first place.

Pikachu Belle
07-24-2014, 08:03 AM
I believe Gary/Justin to be innocent. If he isn't then I'm sorry u.u

After reading all the pages, I've decided that Sierra has argued her case well. I don't really know if it's enough to change my mind on the vote but we still have time left so.

Sagator.. He has seemed a little bit pushy. But then again we were getting no-where with the vote.

I'll keep my vote with Sierra for now.

IBuKun
07-24-2014, 09:43 AM
I'm still not clear on why people think sierra is TR. She simply answered the question Gary asked... and it's so tempting to join the band wagon and vote for Sierra cause I'm no longer sure about Gary.

Well I guess I'll cast my vote

##vote: Gary

Georgia
07-24-2014, 09:55 AM
I am taking awhile to vote for someone and it's because of analyzing what everyone is saying or because not everyone has commented yet which makes me suspicious...them being less Active makes me think they are just hiding.

Gary is only only really just analyzing what people say in a Psychological way...was that the right word. But yeah I think he is innocent and too Active. Also with Sagator he is being too Active too making the eyes on him..sorta with Sierra too, It doesn't look good but the more you say the more others will think it is you because they have more to say against you which would make it too obvious if you were TR....unless you are very confident you wont get caught.

As I quote from Saga: "You say Gary seems suspicious because he's been very direct, however, in the last game we played we voted off someone who was also very direct and we ended up paying for it by losing the entire game. Just because someone seems direct doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty. In all honesty, I don't seen any point in these types of questions just because it's a lying game, yet on the other hand I suppose it might be a good method of collecting data about how people write, communicate etc."

Others are going with the active people but I on the other hand am going to go safe with the quiet ones...there are still plenty who have not said much...maybe in fear they will give something away that gives a clue about being TR...but also doesn't mean I will take all my focus on the ones active...I'm still watching very carefully.

I also know some are just joking around a little and say suspicious things like Raven...she is taking things from a different approach yes, but really takes the suspicion right off her, I know she is smarter than what she seems.

A little suspicious of my boyfriend, just because he is a little calm and the whole we can figure this out and saying we can work together..just makes me feel like he is trying to be the good guy..take all the eyes off him and of course as Tammie said Blend in. But of course I need a better reason for a vote...but I kinda need to vote so For Now...

##Vote: Nick
Sorry honey..

Del
07-24-2014, 10:48 AM
##Unvote:Gary
I felt I was running out of time to vote because I thought the day ended sooner, and as for why, I was made a little more suspicious of Gary after voting for Sierra simply because it didn't seem to me like there was much evidence to go on at first. However, I realise this was not a very good reason to vote at all.

Baby Koga
07-24-2014, 11:03 AM
Voting is now closed!

Results will be up shortly.

Baby Koga
07-24-2014, 11:21 AM
In the heat of discussion, a young man by the name of Gary spoke out higher than all the rest. Although his reasoning made sense, his rash argument drew attention to himself. Murmurs rung through the crowd as he gradually became the main suspect. "He's a Rocket!" The crowd accused. Before he could defend himself, multiple Pokemon were summoned and surrounded. There was nothing he could do. Nurse Joy had barely got to the scene before the man collapsed. She remorsefully checked his pockets. The mobfell deathly silent as she found a Pokedex.

"What we done? He was just... a Pokemon trainer..."

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _______

Eliminated:
GaryEhffinOak (Pokemon Trainer, sided with Pokemon Trainers).

Rockets: 4
Trainers: 9


__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _______

Night 1 will now commence. Anyone with specific roles will have 24 hours to pm me their actions.

TR Kill Power: 2

Geo Sakuraba
07-24-2014, 12:04 PM
Well, There Goes The Neighbourhood...

Baby Koga
07-25-2014, 09:30 AM
NIGHT 1's verdict will commence in an hour and a half, shortly followed by DAY2. Any roles who have yet to trigger their actions have that amount of time to do so.

Baby Koga
07-25-2014, 11:14 AM
The city of Saffron fell quite after the commotions of DAY1. However, some were still restless to know the truth.

A girl called Raven was snooping around the gym when a deep voice roared, "Halt! Who goes there!?" Raven gasped, but was too frightened to say a word.
"You're one of them, aren't you!" the man said accusingly as he walked into the light of the street lamp. He was dressed in martial robes, his eyes furrowed.
"No, no you've got it all wrong!" she pleaded.
"Liar!" Hitmonlee, go!"

Raven screamed as she was attacked, defenseless. After she fell to the ground, a small item fell out of her pocket. The karate master picked up the Pokedex. "Hmm... I must be more careful with with my choices. My apologies, trainer Raven."

The karate master bowed respectfully at Raven's lifeless body.

Eliminated:
Raven, Pokemon Trainer (aligned with Pokemon Trainer).

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________-

On the other side of the city, a young trainer ran through the back alleys, panting heavily, constantly checking her back. Suddenly, she bumped into a broad figure. "Going somewhere?" he said threateningly.

She gasped and tried to run the other way, but a shadowed figure stood in her way. "Tonight's not your lucky night."

"Please, let me go!" she begged, but the two figures began to to advance on her from either side.

One of the figures was about to grab a poke ball from their waist when a small Pokemon suddenly appeared on the trainer's back.

"breh.."

"Abra!" the trainer cheered. With a confident smile, she winked at the two Rockets. "Sorry boys. Not tonight!"

Before either of the Rockets could make another move, the trainer and Abra disappeared with a flash of light.

"Damn it!" one of the Rockets cursed and kicked a trash can in anger.

__________________________________________________ ___________________________

Just as Nurse Joy was about to close the Pokemon Centre, a person crawled through the automatic doors, their body crackling with static.
"My goodness!" Nurse Joy gasped. "Let me help you. I'll have you back to perfect health in no time."

The trainer was nursed back to health, cured of paralysis.

Baby Koga
07-25-2014, 11:21 AM
[DAY 2] has now begun. With so much drama, yet only one casualty, tensions are sure to be high among the captives of Saffron City.

Some trainers have had the misfortune of encountering angry wild Pokemon.

You have 48 hours to chose the next victim to be lynched. Best of luck!

[Edit)

Team Rocket count: 4

Trainers: 8

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 11:27 AM
Morning all. I guess today is the day we crack down on who is TR. We need to be more aware. After losing two trainers we can't afford to lose more.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-25-2014, 11:34 AM
I couldn't agree more. We have had two trainers taken down already and can't afford any more losses. This is where the game hits a turning point because it's a do or die situation. We need to start thinking strategically and asking more questions as a team in order to find TR and eliminate them fast before we get taken down. Questions we need to be thinking right now are the likes of "Who is the most likely person that would've killed Raven?", "What was their motive for killing her?", "What did they stand to gain from Raven being killed" etc.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 11:38 AM
There Goes Another One...

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 11:40 AM
Hmm I still have my suspicions over Sierra.

Baby Koga
07-25-2014, 11:45 AM
Update: Amy has received a warning. If she does not participate within the next 48 hours, she will be modkilled.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-25-2014, 11:54 AM
Hmm I still have my suspicions over Sierra.

May I ask why?
You see I too have suspicions of Sierra. But I want to see if we are on the same page.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 11:55 AM
This day should be a day we at LEAST get a TR member lynched guys...

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 11:57 AM
It seemed to me that she was getting annoyed of the act that Raven was playing. But then again she had suspicions over Justin. So my bets is that she's either the Fighting master or Team Rocket.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-25-2014, 12:01 PM
This day should be a day we at LEAST get a TR member lynched guys...

We are certainly trying to lynch a TR. Unless you believe otherwise.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 12:05 PM
Best of luck to us trainers...

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 12:14 PM
Best of luck to us trainers...

Hmm. This is a bit of a risky sentence. He could actually be a trainer or using it as a disguise.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 12:22 PM
*facepalm* Yep, it sure was, but anyways, lets recall... Justin and Raven were killed and lynched, 4 TR Members are still on the loose, we could be in a pinch here because they have a killing power of 2 plus there are 8 of us so if we lynch someone wrong there would be 7 then those who get killed will reduce us to 5... unless of course we have type advantage...

The Kiwi Dragon
07-25-2014, 12:25 PM
It seemed to me that she was getting annoyed of the act that Raven was playing. But then again she had suspicions over Justin. So my bets is that she's either the Fighting master or Team Rocket.

We seem to have the same suspicions almost. I agree on the part that she had suspicions of Justin right before he was lynched, and whilst it'd be easy to pick her as Raven's killer aka the Karate Master I don't necessarily agree, mostly because it would give her away. I'm guessing whoever attacked Raven was annoyed by either her presence or the remarks she made. I'd go as far as taking a guess and say that person never actually said anything to or about Raven to attempt to blend in and avoid being detected. Just my thoughts.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-25-2014, 12:32 PM
Hmm. This is a bit of a risky sentence. He could actually be a trainer or using it as a disguise.

From my perspective it sounds like one of two things: First that it may be a cryptic message. Something someone would say if they were part of the team that had the upper hand over the other. Almost like "Good luck to you all but you're all screwed". Or like you said he could just actually be a trainer which I certainly hope is true.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 12:47 PM
Ok so let me just say that what I meant is that we have a lesser percentage even though we have a greater number, Im just saying we have lesser than 50% to make a right choice and it's totally ok with me if you guys lynch me for making a move I never thought I would regret, Ive played the other Mafia game and so far all I know is that people say "You'll Regret This Decision" but for me let me just say that instead of saying that I'm ok with you guys lynching me because I did make myself suspicious, but for all I have to say, Im a trainer for real and I just want to help, I know that after making a bad move it will keep chaining and revealing more things that people will exactly think that it is not real like what I just said... So to give you an idea, chaining is bad but it cant be avoided so now I know im a prime suspect and its ok since I did make a decision badly.

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 01:05 PM
Well we should wait for others to arrive. Maybe they can help us find TR!

Georgia
07-25-2014, 01:06 PM
We just need to stop dragging down the ones who are most active or being extremely suspicious. ...it couldn't be more more blantly obvious it's not them. Look In a different direction.

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 01:14 PM
Okay there's a trainer I've had my suspicions over. Charlie. He hasn't spoke. But then I realised. Maybe he was the trainer to have been paralysed by Electabuzz? If I'm right he should be more active today and we'll hear what he has to say.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 01:15 PM
I agree for now... but maybe not to all players who are active though...

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 01:18 PM
Okay there's a trainer I've had my suspicions over. Charlie. He hasn't spoke. But then I realised. Maybe he was the trainer to have been paralysed by Electabuzz? If I'm right he should be more active today and we'll hear what he has to say.

Yeah, Probably, Amy WAS warned but Charlie was not...

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 01:21 PM
It would be nice to hear what he has to say. After all he probably watched all of what happened yesterday.

Georgia
07-25-2014, 01:21 PM
Yes that is true. There are quite a few who haven't commented much. I just don't want to have things aimed at another innocent trainer.
Also luckily know one really suspects me...interesting.

Del
07-25-2014, 01:24 PM
Okay there's a trainer I've had my suspicions over. Charlie. He hasn't spoke. But then I realised. Maybe he was the trainer to have been paralysed by Electabuzz? If I'm right he should be more active today and we'll hear what he has to say.

My suspicion over Charlie is due to the fact that at the beginning of the last mafia game he almost single handedly took down the town. I feel pretty confident in saying he's good at this game, although that doesn't necessarily mean he is part of TR, but I'm keeping an eye on him.

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 01:24 PM
I haven't noticed anything odd about you. Other then you didn't join the others in voting for Justin and Sierra.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 01:31 PM
Weeeeell, at one point I DID get suspicious of YOU Georgia...

Fabulous Charlie
07-25-2014, 01:58 PM
Good morning everyone!

Sorry for my lack of responses, the first day was wayyy too hectic for me and I couldn't think until the final hours, as you can see by my very long comment about Gary, may he and Raven rest in peace T.T especially adorable Gary <3

Honestly though, what Geo has said, raised a few flags. I'm going to be watching what he comments and how he responds to others.

I feel like Sierra wouldn't attack Raven. It seemed that Sierra was trying to explain to Raven the game while also trying to maintain a calm composure, and trying not to raise a few flags. She recieved...three votes? One from Raven, one from Tammie (Asuna) and one from Gary. Though I couldn't see why Tammie and Raven would vote for her? Sierra had a very good defense and I'm 99% sure she is a trainer, just like I was 99% sure that Gary was innocent.

Oh, wow I was wondering when I would be suspected. Just for clarification, I believe I commented twice in yesterday's events and Amy did not comment...Just saying. Another thing, in response to Saga's comment, everyone was fairly new to the game. The only two experienced players were Nick and Sierra, making the game a bit easier to win because of the lack of experience. I admit that game was quite fun but I had an identity meltdown just being in the Mafia. Yes I am capable of taking over a town, but isn't everyone in this game? All of us, at least suspect one another, and all of us are capable of deceit and lying, even when we say otherwise. I would be quite surprised if I wasn't a suspect and we all have our suspicions.

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 02:17 PM
Amy's currently with her Uncle and has no internet I believe.

Geo Sakuraba
07-25-2014, 02:24 PM
Btw, yeah, I know I raised some flags because of that reply I did...

Layton
07-25-2014, 03:21 PM
We seem to have the same suspicions almost. I agree on the part that she had suspicions of Justin right before he was lynched, and whilst it'd be easy to pick her as Raven's killer aka the Karate Master I don't necessarily agree, mostly because it would give her away. I'm guessing whoever attacked Raven was annoyed by either her presence or the remarks she made. I'd go as far as taking a guess and say that person never actually said anything to or about Raven to attempt to blend in and avoid being detected. Just my thoughts.
I never actually thought that Justin was a TR member u.u And I chose to ignore Raven. I voted for neither of them.

Layton
07-25-2014, 03:26 PM
Also, wouldn't it be a dead giveaway for me to kill her right after I discussed with her about her wild playing? It'd be a stupid move. Plain and simple.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-25-2014, 03:34 PM
OK I just did some rereading and I screwed up on your vote Sierra. My apologies about that.
Also I know it is a dead giveaway, and I know you think rather strategically so I didn't think it was you. I was trying to show a way to dismiss Tammie's proposal that you were the Karate Master.

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 03:38 PM
Hmm I can see how I made a mistake. I was just trying to see who would do that to Raven.. :/

Layton
07-25-2014, 03:52 PM
Someone who must've thought that she WAS actually TR and not just acting that way. It was a good and bad strategy. Lynch her for acting that way, and she turns out to be a trainer. Leave her be, and she may have been a TR member hiding in plain sight all along u.u Someone probably didn't want to risk the latter scenario and went ahead and killed her.

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 03:57 PM
It's in the past. And we should act on who to vote for next. Sorry if I seem pushy but we don't want to lose any other trainers.

Layton
07-25-2014, 04:14 PM
It's in the past. And we should act on who to vote for next. Sorry if I seem pushy but we don't want to lose any other trainers.
Nah it's cool, I share the feels. I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels figuring out who to vote for...

Pikachu Belle
07-25-2014, 04:25 PM
I still have suspicions over Charlie..

Layton
07-25-2014, 04:30 PM
I still have suspicions over Charlie..

While Charlie did take down the town last game, I think he's innocent.
He said that he thought Justin was innocent, and he was.
TR know who each other are, and who the trainers are. So, if he was TR and knew Justin was innocent, he'd have gotten us to vote for Justin and get rid of him, rather than sticking his neck out to defend him. That's just my opinion.

Layton
07-25-2014, 04:43 PM
I'm wary of the inactives. And people who vote with little or no reason. Such as Haymac. He just came on and voted Justin with no reasoning...

And Sand... While he did have a reason, it was a bit odd. Justin wasn't the most obviously suspicious person, I (apparently) was. Yet he got the vote going against Justin...

Del
07-25-2014, 05:14 PM
I agree with Sierra about Sand voting for Gary, although admittedly I did as well at first. Charlie also pointed out that Sagator was another person to raise suspicions about Gary, however neither of them have participated at all in today's discussion. Where are they?
Haymac seems to be acting exactly as he did in the last game, which is randomly! I don't really have an opinion about Haymac yet, he just keeps doing the same thing over and over.

Fabulous Charlie
07-25-2014, 07:05 PM
I agree with Sierra about Sand voting for Gary, although admittedly I did as well at first. Charlie also pointed out that Sagator was another person to raise suspicions about Gary, however neither of them have participated at all in today's discussion. Where are they?
Haymac seems to be acting exactly as he did in the last game, which is randomly! I don't really have an opinion about Haymac yet, he just keeps doing the same thing over and over.

I'm in the same boat about Digi (MrSandMan) and Sagator because both originally voted for Gary and it seems from the previous day's events that neither of them actually really took into account Gary's defenses, after the countless comments he put up defending himself. Though you surprise me a bit, I'm glad that you were able to listen to his defenses, Saga.

Del
07-25-2014, 07:26 PM
I'm in the same boat about Digi (MrSandMan) and Sagator because both originally voted for Gary and it seems from the previous day's events that neither of them actually really took into account Gary's defenses, after the countless comments he put up defending himself. Though you surprise me a bit, I'm glad that you were able to listen to his defenses, Saga.

Ultimately it didn't matter that I changed my vote, though.:( The first day was absolutely crazy and luckily it seems a lot calmer now. Also, looking back GM2K also voted for Gary.

DigiTheTraitor
07-25-2014, 07:37 PM
More of the case we need to be more careful. Who ever bagged Raven clearly acted rashly without much thought however the karate master is supposed to be on our side but it seems he can be just as much a threat as TR

DigiTheTraitor
07-25-2014, 08:00 PM
A and as far as my vote for Gary go's I voted him because in most cases in both battles and just joking around in the chat he rarely if ever takes the role as an attacker or one to cause action and then not sit back and observe. His behavior was out of character to me and impaired to the others this raised more suspicion to me. As far as me being the first to vote against him that was because boo one else was willing to be the first to vote. And Sierra you know I sleep to the late after noon regularly I just woke up if wasn't avoiding the chat

DigiTheTraitor
07-25-2014, 08:08 PM
*compared to the others

Del
07-25-2014, 08:10 PM
I think comparing someone's behaviour in the game with how they act naturally was the wrong way to go about things.

DigiTheTraitor
07-25-2014, 08:16 PM
this is my first time playing and i with no prior expiriance i was forced to go off of what little i know :/

Gaming Master 2000
07-25-2014, 11:29 PM
Morning all! Go to sleep for a night and I missed a whole heap!

I was shocked to see Raven was eliminated by the Karate Master. I'm even more shocked that both Gary and Raven were both trainers since the way they both seemed to go after Sierra I was sure at least one, if not both, of them was TR trying to convince us to lynch her. It's obvious the Karate Master was doing what they thought was right and are truly sorry for the mistake.

I, personally, don't think we should take into account how people played in the last game or how they normally behave because this is a completely separate game and not a normal situation so people will act a bit differently to normal.

As for who to look at next; I'm going to have to re-evaluate how I decide since I clearly made a big mistake last time.

Georgia
07-26-2014, 12:21 AM
##Unvote: Nick. Yeah I have my eye on a few others and Nick seems more innocent now then at the start of the game...

DigiTheTraitor
07-26-2014, 01:26 AM
there where quit a few of us that voted for gary so i don't see that necessarily as a main reason to convict anyone i will admit i voted wrong last time and i am going to be much more careful next time, currently my suspicions to are against the inactive people however i think we need to start asking questions, yes last time we voted out a trainer but we didn't have much to go on and that was our main problem, we need to get a bit more organized or we might be in trouble

Layton
07-26-2014, 01:33 AM
Honestly, Inactives, Geo, and (sorry) Tammie are the ones I suspect right now. I don't know why I suspect Tammie, but I've got a gut feeling that she either has an actual role + trainer or is TR. Geo's words just strike me as weird "Us trainers" "Let's try to lynch a TR member today" Like, those are all a given in what's going on. Even if it's sarcastic or without thinking, it seems like you're trying to blend in.

Georgia
07-26-2014, 01:36 AM
I actually agree with Sierra in a way and with what she's saying. It makes sense.

DigiTheTraitor
07-26-2014, 01:39 AM
i do agree about having suspicions about Geo however i want to get more facts before i end up jumping the gun again i kind of feel like i got Gary's blood on my hands as the first one to vote last time :/ as for raven it kind of sucks that she is gone she was a bit annoying but it did spark conversation.

Layton
07-26-2014, 03:05 AM
We definitely need more facts rather than simply making a decision based on gut instinct. While I do suspect them, I've nothing to go on. They could be completely innocent for all I know.

Geo Sakuraba
07-26-2014, 04:04 AM
Sorry If I Havent Posted A Lot Lately, BTW Its Okay If You Guys Suspect Me, I Bet You Guys Are Waiting For Me To Say "But Im A Trainer!" or "You'll Regret This Decision", I think those are dead giveaways anyway so im not saying it, Everyone has the right to suspect me because of my phrase but let me just say that to find ourselves a TR Member we may need to keep finding some... btw im actually thinking Georgia would be TR Member just because she has voted someone who has been helping us AKA Nick... IDK if you people believe me but for now im suspecting Georgia...

Porygon-ZZZ
07-26-2014, 05:33 AM
After looking over everything that has happened, I vote for Tammie. u.u She seems very suspicious to me.

The Kiwi Dragon
07-26-2014, 05:59 AM
After looking over everything that has happened, I vote for Tammie. u.u She seems very suspicious to me.

How so? Also if you wish to vote you must do so by doing this:
##Vote: (Name of person you are voting)

Porygon-ZZZ
07-26-2014, 06:05 AM
How so? Also if you wish to vote you must do so by doing this:
##Vote: (Name of person you are voting)

Mainly because she has been in-active, like she is avoiding saying anything that might rival suspicion. (I was on holiday, reasons for my in-active)
##Vote: Tammie.

Georgia
07-26-2014, 07:14 AM
Right I have no idea how long I have to vote but I have about suspects in mind which have been mentioned a fair bit. This really puts your brain to the test doesn't it?

Tammie:
Tammie has been on the near top from the start of this whole thing but I didn't know why kinda just thought so. And you told me you knew people would be coming for you because of who you voted which made me wonder.

Geo:
Geo said "Best of luck to us trainers..." Is he a trainer or is he lying...I feel like a lot of things he says are lies because they are too good to be true for a trainer to say.

If I haven't already said this before but I am not focusing that much Sierra...If she was TR I think she shouldn't get eyes on her.

I actually think Charlie is more likely to be a TR more than Sierra, he is very calm about this whole thing and apparently he is pretty good at this game, also the fact he hasn't said that much.

I also wanted to say I'm kinda on the same page as Saga, I agree with most things Saga says.

When Nick said "I'm guessing whoever attacked Raven was annoyed by either her presence or the remarks she made. I'd go as far as taking a guess and say that person never actually said anything to or about Raven to attempt to blend in and avoid being detected. Just my thoughts." I actually fully agree with you there hun and I think you are exactly right.

With Amy..welcome, but to me she screams trainer. I may be wrong.

And I'm interested as to why Haymac hasn't commented much...like once wasn't it. He's being quiet..

And anyone suspecting me....don't bother, you are wasting your time. Just saying.

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 07:16 AM
I'm at my aunts currently and she turns the internet off at 10 :/

Anyway. Sorry bout my inactivity.

Here's what I say in defense. Let's say Sierra was TR. Why would I, apparently a TR member myself, go against her and side with a trainer?

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 07:32 AM
It's going to be really hard who to vote for. However I do believe that Charlie has raised more of the alarms for me. He's spoke much less then me and you're voting me off? Aha. I do believe though.. That Charlie was the trainer to have been paralysed by Electabuzz.. But even saying that he still hasn't spoke much and is too calm u.u

Therefore I am voting: ##Vote: Fabulous Charlie

Gaming Master 2000
07-26-2014, 07:37 AM
Don't we still have more than 24 hours to vote?

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 07:41 AM
I think we do. But we're not getting anywhere with cracking down on Team Rocket. I shoved my vote up there to start a discussion.

Georgia
07-26-2014, 07:45 AM
I had Charlie as a third suspect but I didn't really have a good enough reason to put him in that place.
Hmm..still thinking of who to vote..

Gaming Master 2000
07-26-2014, 07:46 AM
That's ok. I've been out all day (and am still out) so haven't been able to pay close attention so I got worried I got my days mixed up :p

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 07:55 AM
Oh my gosh.. I've stumbled upon something. None of you have picked up on the fact that a trainer escaped the two TR members.. A female trainer. I have a huge feeling that those TR members will lead everyone to vote for the girl who go away. Therefore I suspect that Amy and Georgia are TR. Now Georgia said: "And anyone suspecting me....don't bother, you are wasting your time." I have this suspicion that Georgie is actually the Leader of TR and it would be pointless if we lynched her as we'd get killed trying.

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 07:56 AM
and everyone to vote for the girl in revenge*

Geo Sakuraba
07-26-2014, 07:59 AM
Hmmm so Im suspected like I said, you all have the right to, but seriously... not everyone who is active is TR or Trainers so this'll be tricky... I cant even make up a conclusion yet of who to vote because I dont have any evidence yet...

Geo Sakuraba
07-26-2014, 08:02 AM
Tammie has just struck gold :p Now I have a reason to vote Georgia... yet its weird if no one believed you though...

Georgia
07-26-2014, 08:08 AM
Wow.... Just wow. I'm being suspected. By the ones who I already suspected too. If you vote for me you are clearly making the wrong decision, you will regret it.
Of course me saying "And anyone suspecting me....don't bother, you are wasting your time." is suspicious...how could it not be? But why would a TR say that...
Yes I did pick up the same thing a couple of hours ago but didn't put it into consideration when writing up my suspects. But what girls could it possible be...Tammie? Sierra? Amy?

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 08:09 AM
I have bets that if the girl who escaped last night survives today, she'll be lynched in the night.. Again.

Georgia
07-26-2014, 08:10 AM
....Can't wait for you to find out I'm not TR. You are all digging yourself in a hole.
Find someone better to suspect.

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 08:13 AM
Oh please Georgie. Amy suddenly votes for me and I'm at the top of your suspicious list? I think you know who escaped those Team Rocket members :p and anyway I don't think TR would have enough reason to go for Sierra or Amy. Maybe Sierra because she plays the game well but certainly not Amy who hasn't been here much.

Geo Sakuraba
07-26-2014, 08:13 AM
Saying "And anyone suspecting me....don't bother, you are wasting your time." is actually something a TR Member would say to try get himself/herself out of the light...

Georgia
07-26-2014, 08:17 AM
Go on and vote me out...I dare you too. Good luck.

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 08:18 AM
I'm not going to. As I still believe you are the Leader.. Or maybe you're the champion? Two very nice roles that would be pointless to vote against.

Geo Sakuraba
07-26-2014, 08:22 AM
I might though but im keeping this in custody before time is nearly up and my mind has'nt change by then >.>

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 08:25 AM
So where do we go from here? Well I for one find it really funny that Amy appears and with a poor argument votes for me. Hmm don't really understand that. Plus I haven't been that inactive. Not like some of the others :p

Geo Sakuraba
07-26-2014, 08:28 AM
Well, we now know that Amy would'nt have had the chance to pick a target so if she is actually TR then this would be easy to detect as the poor judgement she has casted is inapropriate and she may be trying to turn the tables which, sadly, wouldnt work without a good reason...

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 08:41 AM
I've also just noticed something.. The TR Boss and Executive can team up to kill one person.. Wow.. They really wanted that girl gone hmm? :rolleyes:

Pikachu Belle
07-26-2014, 08:58 AM
This is what we should focus on. The fact that the mafia could have took two trainers down but only tried to attack one..

The Kiwi Dragon
07-26-2014, 09:07 AM
This is what we should focus on. The fact that the mafia could have took two trainers down but only tried to attack one..

Question is though, why? What is the point of them only targeting one person? They have the power to kill two people and chose to target one who fortunately enough escaped thanks to Abra. But what was so significant about this one person that TR had to target her?