Why so much hate? (Fairy type)

[Faerie]

Yeah, they combined dragon/ice types with Kyurem. But they also combined other opposing types, with rock/flying (Aerodactyl), water/rock (Corsola), water/plant (Lotad), psychic/fighting (Medetite), electric/flying (Emolga)... Although I do rather shudder at the thought of them possibly making a faerie/dragon one day.

[reshilegend]

There is the egg group fairy (marill is just an example) which existed for a while now, so it makes perfect sense to retype some pokemon of this group to fairy, js.
Of course the whole "fairy vs dragon" thing looks weird at first view, but it makes sense if you think about the mythical aspect of it.
Also, dragon pokemon were undoubtly OP with only one type resisting it and only 2 weaknesses (technically only one besides dragon itself), so that was the primary reason to introduce the type. Maybe they also added it because they think it would appeal to female players, who knows? I used Dragon pokemon like everyone else did but I think spamming draco meteor or outrage won't be easy to do anymore if they reveal a fast offensive fairy. If the rumors are true and fairy is weak to poison, that's an even better type balance seeing as poison is besides grass (as sad as it may sound) one of the worst types atm.
So, if the balance of types was needed, I understand GameFreak for introducing this type. It's not like they didn't have a reason for that or just wanted to see a Jigglypuff destroying a Hydreigon (which is still not really possible because these new announced fairies don't look like real powerhouses stats-wise).
Congratulations to everyone reading the complete post.

[Lord Of Storms]

i think i would have been more okay with a light type rather than fairy, i also dont see a need for them to "reclassify" pokemon, i believe that their seriously out of ideas, it seems really unoriginal to me that they just need a fill in type to elaborate on pokemon, think of how much more complicated competitive battling will be now, i see how dragons would be weak to light bu tnot fairy, in my perspective fairy should stay in Magic and Yugioh, sorry for hating but i just dont know any more...

[UltraSound]

Does nobody know the difference between a modern interpretation (IE the picture you posted) and the actual myths? In all honesty, a Dragon is not always that huge scary thing. In fact, they were, in myth, more common in smaller, more bird-like forms and weren't very threatening at all. Fairies on the other hand are very vicious creatures in myth. For example, did you know the valkyries are fairies?

Here's a valkyrie: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs50/f/20...y_GENZOMAN.jpg
Here's a typical Wyvern, the more commonly told type of dragon: http://fc04.deviantart.net/images/la...all_Wyvern.jpg

People should learn the myths before talking down something based on what Disney has fooled you to believe.

Fairies also include the Nymphs, the Disir, and even the Elves, which are known to be violent creatures. In fact, elves made Thor's mighty hammer. They would easily defeat a dragon with their skills, and in many myths they have.

Rather disappointed that you couldn't take my joke...this is pokemon, not some super serious business. :P Really, I just took the first pics from Google that I just found and thought would fit in my joke. Chillax. :3
And well, being from a country that once believed in derping elves and such, (+ most of these myths have been born near/right here where I live) I THINK I know a thing or two about myths, thank you very much. Tho I don't wanna start a fight, since it's non-existant things we are talking about after all.
In my language, valkyries are called with a name "haltija", which is not a fairy at all. It's more like someone who guards a tree or a rock. Someone who's a finn may disagree with me, but once again, these are non-existant things we're talking about. Shush. :P + nymphs are rather a mix of fairies and haltijas, disir are more or less depending on an opinion if they are fairies or not (IMO, they definetely are not.), and elves I wouldn't personally consider fairies either, but hey, again, pure opinion! There are really not much facts in these things.
+ about that dragon, that's a dragon's sub specie we call "traakki". It's another specie that is said to been born from dragons, but it's not a dragon. :3 That's why it's called a wyvern, not a dragon.
And as far as I've read, the dwarfs made his hammer, not elves, but I've read many stories about the hammer, and it has almost always been a different story how the hammer was made.
I'd appreciate if you didn't bash my knowledge on something when you don't know if I know something about it... 3:

[TheManyFacesOfGlalie]

Because I along with a few others know that Fairy is not only absolutely pointless but neither does it appeal to me and a few of my friends. How you find the prospect of this atrocious 18th (and thoroughly unnecessary) type to be able to beat Dragons as exciting is beyond me. They've now decided after 17 years that one of the most powerful types (and my personal favourite) in Pokémon has to be turned into a hypothetical punch-bag. The balance of types was perfect IMO. Dark and Steel evened it out perfectly in Gen 2. Now we're going to have more headaches because we accidentally use Hydreigon against Gardevoir only for it to be taken out by a Fairy move. We've had the same consistency in types for almost a decade and a half. And now it's gone and got screwed up like it was back in Gen 1.

Well against your point, types were NOT evenly balanced at all. Poison has no uses aside from against Grass (and possibly giving use to Psychic and Ground-types), and now it will be strong against something else, which judging from the Pokemon shown so far, may not be too important, but it is still something useful. Same goes for Steel, which I'm sure will get a lot more use now.

More importantly, Dragon is being checked/countered, and now people can't just sit there spamming Outrage forever without being stopped. Fairy was basically something made to check the power of Dragon-types, and honestly, if you're worried about Hydregion being defeated by Gardevoir, the solution is simple. Do what a trainer would do, and be ready to counter it. It's honestly not complicated. If you were really dedicated to the games you'd embrace the new type and just learn to defeat it instead of complaining about how it will defeat/bother you.

[TheManyFacesOfGlalie]

Rather disappointed that you couldn't take my joke...this is pokemon, not some super serious business. :P Really, I just took the first pics from Google that I just found and thought would fit in my joke. Chillax. :3
And well, being from a country that once believed in derping elves and such, (+ most of these myths have been born near/right here where I live) I THINK I know a thing or two about myths, thank you very much. Tho I don't wanna start a fight, since it's non-existant things we are talking about after all.
In my language, valkyries are called with a name "haltija", which is not a fairy at all. It's more like someone who guards a tree or a rock. Someone who's a finn may disagree with me, but once again, these are non-existant things we're talking about. Shush. :P + nymphs are rather a mix of fairies and haltijas, disir are more or less depending on an opinion if they are fairies or not (IMO, they definetely are not.), and elves I wouldn't personally consider fairies either, but hey, again, pure opinion! There are really not much facts in these things.
+ about that dragon, that's a dragon's sub specie we call "traakki". It's another specie that is said to been born from dragons, but it's not a dragon. :3 That's why it's called a wyvern, not a dragon.
And as far as I've read, the dwarfs made his hammer, not elves, but I've read many stories about the hammer, and it has almost always been a different story how the hammer was made.
I'd appreciate if you didn't bash my knowledge on something when you don't know if I know something about it... 3:

I confused dwarves with elves for the hammer... but still. And yeah, I guess it depends on how you define a Fairy, which, as you said, has a loose description and is non-existent, so we can't factually say what is or isn't. In my opinion all those things are fairies, and it's fine if you disagree... It is all opinion in the end, so if that's your argument for it it's whatever....


I feel like in the end, it's still Pokemon we're talking about... Lol we should be throwing most of our logic out the window when discussing this xD

[Mega Klefki]

Because I along with a few others know that Fairy is not only absolutely pointless but neither does it appeal to me and a few of my friends. How you find the prospect of this atrocious 18th (and thoroughly unnecessary) type to be able to beat Dragons as exciting is beyond me. They've now decided after 17 years that one of the most powerful types (and my personal favourite) in Pokémon has to be turned into a hypothetical punch-bag. The balance of types was perfect IMO. Dark and Steel evened it out perfectly in Gen 2. Now we're going to have more headaches because we accidentally use Hydreigon against Gardevoir only for it to be taken out by a Fairy move. We've had the same consistency in types for almost a decade and a half. And now it's gone and got screwed up like it was back in Gen 1.

Since your being bugged on ONE TYPE of the series, you might as well stop being a Pokémon fan. And besides, Hydreigon is Still a Dark type as well as Dragon.

[TheManyFacesOfGlalie]

Okay, I'm just gonna say this right now, because this thread is extremely unproductive as it is.

GameFreak does not a give a damn if you're unhappy with the new type or the new advantages. Guess What! They're still filling their pockets with money from the people that built a bridge and got over it! You protesting the Fairy-type does absolutely nothing besides show all us others why you really aren't committed to the game. I real fan would embrace this change, instead of complaining that Dragons are now "hypothetical punch-bags", which isn't even true, considering Dragon-type have monstrously over-powered stats and it seems like those Fairy-types they're showing aren't very big in the power department at all. Even though it's annoying, those of you who choose to spam Outrage can still do so! It's no big deal!

In the end, there was a point to it anyways. Dragon's need a check/counter/balance/etc. so they can stop dominating the game! And now, Posion and Steel-types will have some purpose! If you really cared about the game, you'd stop complaining and get a Steel or Poison-type and counter those Fairies if you hate them so much!

[Lord Of Storms]

yeah but theres a difference between a dark dragon and a fairy, im okay with double types but fairy dragon is different, but with all of this aside i must agreee with papaya seeing as GameFreak doesnt care one way or another that a small group of kids are unhappy with their ideas, their so rich they could careless, everyones going to have a different view and different feelings depending on your nature or your own feeling of being a hardcore fan, personally im not a huge fan of this new type or the game in general but were all going to have to deal with it one way or another, it just depends whether or not your canceling your order, but you can decide that on your own, thank you and good day :P srry for rambling ....

[Faerie]

*blinks*
I was never of the opinion that this was here to let Gamefreak know whether or not we approved of this decision. I was given to understand that this topic was here so we could share our opinions on the matter with each other. Yes, some of us are rather vocal about their disliking of the new type, while others are willing to give it a try. That does not make anyone here right or wrong, though... we're just here to share our opinions, not point fingers at each other. If you don't like the change... that doesn't mean that those who do are stupid. If you do approve of the new type, that doesn't mean that those who don't are stupid, either.

...,And for the life of me, I can't recall whether anyone on here actually said that someone else was stupid. I don't think anyone did, though, and I'm certainly not accusing a single person here of saying it. So please don't go off on me, as if I accused you of saying something that you didn't. I'm simply trying to remind everyone that we're all different, with different likes, dislikes, and opinions. I would also like to point out that Pokemon is supposed to be fun. Sitting here fighting about it solves nothing, and spoils the fun.

With that said, I'm perfectly willing to say that I'll give the new games I try. With each and every generation of Pokemon, there's been things that I didn't like (such as how rediculous they make the female character look, or Woobat, or Bidoof, or...), but it hasn't stopped me yet. Let them add the new type. I'll try it, and then decide whether or not I like it.

... Oh, and as for my opinions voiced above, mentioning a couple of certain Pokemon? That's just my opinion. If you'd like to discuss it with me, feel free to send me a message. Let's try to keep this topic open for what it was meant for. ^_^

[GaryEhffinJoaker]

Rather disappointed that you couldn't take my joke...this is pokemon, not some super serious business. :P Really, I just took the first pics from Google that I just found and thought would fit in my joke. Chillax. :3
And well, being from a country that once believed in derping elves and such, (+ most of these myths have been born near/right here where I live) I THINK I know a thing or two about myths, thank you very much. Tho I don't wanna start a fight, since it's non-existant things we are talking about after all.
In my language, valkyries are called with a name "haltija", which is not a fairy at all. It's more like someone who guards a tree or a rock. Someone who's a finn may disagree with me, but once again, these are non-existant things we're talking about. Shush. :P + nymphs are rather a mix of fairies and haltijas, disir are more or less depending on an opinion if they are fairies or not (IMO, they definetely are not.), and elves I wouldn't personally consider fairies either, but hey, again, pure opinion! There are really not much facts in these things.
+ about that dragon, that's a dragon's sub specie we call "traakki". It's another specie that is said to been born from dragons, but it's not a dragon. :3 That's why it's called a wyvern, not a dragon.
And as far as I've read, the dwarfs made his hammer, not elves, but I've read many stories about the hammer, and it has almost always been a different story how the hammer was made.
I'd appreciate if you didn't bash my knowledge on something when you don't know if I know something about it... 3:

Wow. I got my education tonight. Nice...

[GaryEhffinJoaker]

Well against your point, types were NOT evenly balanced at all. Poison has no uses aside from against Grass (and possibly giving use to Psychic and Ground-types), and now it will be strong against something else, which judging from the Pokemon shown so far, may not be too important, but it is still something useful. Same goes for Steel, which I'm sure will get a lot more use now.

More importantly, Dragon is being checked/countered, and now people can't just sit there spamming Outrage forever without being stopped. Fairy was basically something made to check the power of Dragon-types, and honestly, if you're worried about Hydregion being defeated by Gardevoir, the solution is simple. Do what a trainer would do, and be ready to counter it. It's honestly not complicated. If you were really dedicated to the games you'd embrace the new type and just learn to defeat it instead of complaining about how it will defeat/bother you.

I think the truly dedicated have reason to stick with the franchise and learn to deal with this new Fairy type and work alongside it. I also think those dedicated and who love the franchise have every right to be utterly abhorred and offended by this new type. Dragons never have been invincible. In fact, them being so resistant to so many types and being naturally powerful Pokemon, has always been a part of the history of Dragon types. Since Gen 1, they were MEANT to be a nuisance and require thick skin to handle and defeat. That's what Lance taught many of us, including me, back in Red version. They're meant to be the big bad type. That's they're purpose. Not to be out in check. There's so much reason this Fairy type is an offense to the legacy and 15+ year history of Pokemon and a disrespect to the honorary Dragon type. It's not about Nintendo lining their pockets. It's not about them making money despite complaints. As an actual fan of the franchise, my complaint comes from a much deeper place. Because, believe it or not, I don't like the Fairy type at all, but I am a fan of the franchise and no one will ever tell me otherwise just because I have an opinion against something GameFreak or Nintendo or whoever, is doing.

[Fennelito'sHelp]

*blinks*
I was never of the opinion that this was here to let Gamefreak know whether or not we approved of this decision. I was given to understand that this topic was here so we could share our opinions on the matter with each other. Yes, some of us are rather vocal about their disliking of the new type, while others are willing to give it a try. That does not make anyone here right or wrong, though... we're just here to share our opinions, not point fingers at each other. If you don't like the change... that doesn't mean that those who do are stupid. If you do approve of the new type, that doesn't mean that those who don't are stupid, either.

...,And for the life of me, I can't recall whether anyone on here actually said that someone else was stupid. I don't think anyone did, though, and I'm certainly not accusing a single person here of saying it. So please don't go off on me, as if I accused you of saying something that you didn't. I'm simply trying to remind everyone that we're all different, with different likes, dislikes, and opinions. I would also like to point out that Pokemon is supposed to be fun. Sitting here fighting about it solves nothing, and spoils the fun.

With that said, I'm perfectly willing to say that I'll give the new games I try. With each and every generation of Pokemon, there's been things that I didn't like (such as how rediculous they make the female character look, or Woobat, or Bidoof, or...), but it hasn't stopped me yet. Let them add the new type. I'll try it, and then decide whether or not I like it.

... Oh, and as for my opinions voiced above, mentioning a couple of certain Pokemon? That's just my opinion. If you'd like to discuss it with me, feel free to send me a message. Let's try to keep this topic open for what it was meant for. ^_^

Agreed. Downing others for not liking, or liking a new feature, is whack. Deciding you don't like something and won't buy it doesn't make you more of a fan than the others who like the new features and will buy it. How about considering that if you're gonna just buy whatever Nintendo puts out without hesitation, you're just a tool who will consume anything no matter how stupid it is? See how being "dedicated" just got flipped around? Doesn't feel good, does it? Please don't try to hurt those who don't just eat up everything and anything Pokemon. Allow opinion and respect it.

*disclaimer: I called no one dumb or a tool or anything bad. If you think I did, Reread what I typed, slowly, and maybe with an actual adult. Ty*

[Baby Koga]

DUN! Du-Dun! It's gettin' hot in here!

>.>

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So yeah, a slight controversy in the new fairy type . I'm actually really excited about the knew type. Maybe it's just another gimmick by Nintendo to attract new players or maybe they've ran out of ideas, but I like the idea of something new. Also, being a non metagame player, I'm really excited about the game in general.

I can kinda see why people are furious at this, but for now we hardly know anything about the fairy type other than that fairy attacks are super effective against dragons. Maybe this has major implications for both the game and the anime. No one knows!

Anyways, they're my thoughts.

Smell ya laters!

[TheManyFacesOfGlalie]

Same, I can see why they might be mad at this... but like you said, we know very little about this new type. The fact that people are already hating on it is just ridiculous. I admit the idea of a Fairy-type is kind of stupid, but I accept it and I'll probably have a Fairy-type on my team (I love Gardevoir!). There's really no knowing how the Fairy-type will turnout in the game. Maybe they'll be weak to a lot of types, making them easily counterable (for those of you complaining about Dragon's being vulnerable :P) or maybe they'll have basically no use other than Dragon. On the contrary, maybe they'll become a powerful type that resists a lot and may just become as OverPowered as Dragons, in which case I still don't see why there would be hating. And just like legacies grow in real life, the Pokemon legacy will continue to grow. Remember, one of the main points emphasized by the game is that we're always learning more about Pokemon. The fact that we now know more about them (by discovering a new type) is just them continuing the legacy they started.

Now, there's a difference between "I think I will dislike this type" and "This type is absolutely unnecessary and appalling!" One is expressing an opinion, one is just putting down the new Pokemon Type completely. Complaining that Dragons aren't dominant anymore? Really? Dragons still have monstrous stats, not to mention that the Pokemon revealed to have this type are pretty lacking in power. So stop complaining. They're still beasts and if you're going to be that annoying person that lines up 3 dragons on their team, then fine. That can still happen. There's no reason it can't! Honestly, there's no reason to complain. If you don't accept it, just don't accept it. There is absolutely no reason to complain. Even if it bothers you, guess what! Just don't buy the game! I just solved your problems!